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Originally posted by Wezil
Way to dodge the question NYE. It is your style.
Way to dodge the question NYE. It is your style.
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Ask a serious question.(\__/)
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Russia in the NATO is absurd for the time being (and it was absurd in the 90ies). There are already problems resulting from different interests in the alliance (just look at this thread) it wouldn't be any better - rather worse - if Russia was in since Yeltsin's times, or do you guys think it would suddenly forget all its own interests in all aspects just because of a NATO membership? More members don't neccessarily translate into a generally stronger alliance, that's illusion.BlahComment
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"will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force"I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"Comment
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I asked a very serious question. The answer apparently disturbs you so you dodge instead.Originally posted by notyoueither
Ask a serious question.
Let's try again NYE. The question isn't that tough.
Was Afghanistan "broken" before we arrived or not?
Before you answer consider that most NATO officials referred to Afghanistan as a "failed state". What say you oh wise one?
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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The problem with your question is that it is irrelevant. If it being a failed state is one of the reasons it constituted a threat in the first place, it hardly seems productive to leave it that way."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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My question is quite relevant.
NYE claims we have a moral duty to "fix what we broke". He is not arguing the strategic/tactical implications."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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It appears it aren't just euros who struggle to make a distinction between Iraq and Afghanistan.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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No it isn't. We have agreed to an extension of our combat role for another couple of years but the country is quite divided on the mission."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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Stupid people exist the world over.Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
It appears it aren't just euros who struggle to make a distinction between Iraq and Afghanistan.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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it should reduce to three full members + half dozen supportersOriginally posted by BeBro
Russia in the NATO is absurd for the time being (and it was absurd in the 90ies). There are already problems resulting from different interests in the alliance (just look at this thread) it wouldn't be any better - rather worse - if Russia was in since Yeltsin's times, or do you guys think it would suddenly forget all its own interests in all aspects just because of a NATO membership? More members don't neccessarily translate into a generally stronger alliance, that's illusion.
US, UK, Canada + Italy, Poland, Georgia and who feels like it for a 4 year membership fee
"if you want to be a NATO member for next four years, you need to send 1531 soldiers into Afghanistan" etc...Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"Comment
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Well, having different military blocks in Europe (which would be the consequence) didn't work out that well during the first half of the 20th cent.Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
it should reduce to three full members + half dozen supportersBlahComment
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Well you would have "In NATO" and not in NATO block... the not in NATO without some special affiliation like there was in the past... they would go to to Ivory Coast, Kongo or Kosovo off their own free will
Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"Comment
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The Euro trash didn't like Reagan either. Remember the whole nuclear freeze movement.Originally posted by Wezil
We need a "head in the sand" smiley.
You can deny GWB has been disastrous for US foreign relations all you want but it won't change the fact that he is/was.
Is this the reason NATO members aren't stepping up in Afghanistan? In part, I'm sure it is.Comment
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Wrong. Not our job to make failed states unfailed all over the globe. Not efficient. Not even sure that we can do anything other than continuously occupy. and if all we cared about was stability, why not install a strong man?Originally posted by Patroklos
The problem with your question is that it is irrelevant. If it being a failed state is one of the reasons it constituted a threat in the first place, it hardly seems productive to leave it that way.Comment
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That was because the Germans were aggressive. But they've had all the fight whipped out of them, now.Originally posted by BeBro
Well, having different military blocks in Europe (which would be the consequence) didn't work out that well during the first half of the 20th cent.Comment
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