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The point is that Obama is putting forth a very reasonable argument (that was badly stated initially).
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Why the **** don't wouldn't we want an intellectual elite as President?
That's not the question. The question is whether someone portrayed as "elite" can win in November against John McCain?
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Guynemer
At the risk of cribbing from Jon Stewart last night...
What the hell is wrong with elitism?
For years and years and years, the GOP has used phrases like "the intellectual elites" to denigrate people.
Why the **** don't wouldn't we want an intellectual elite as President?
The point is people want empathetic leadership. Gives the illusion that he cares about being a representative of the people and not a representative of a party/ideology.
As for being smart, course people want a smart POTUS, which is one of the many reasons this has stung Obama so much. He showed how incredibly stupid/naive he can be.
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As Ogie pointed out, when people wanted a President to represent them and not just some ideology. Elite, naturally, indicates someone who really isn't in touch with the people and therefore can't really represent their interests while in the job.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Because given the choices we had none. Gore blew it by not using the Clinton political machine. Out and out stupid.
Kerry was and remains more politically moronic than Bush and that is saying something.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Elite, naturally, indicates someone who really isn't in touch with the people and therefore can't really represent their interests while in the job.
Um... since when, exactly, does it "naturally" indicate that?
To me, all it indicates is someone who is really, really, really good.
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Because given the choices we had none. Gore blew it by not using the Clinton political machine. Out and out stupid.
Kerry was and remains more politically moronic than Bush and that is saying something.
Emphasis added: I personally don't give two ****s about how well someone plays the election game. I have said it over and over again, the GOP is much better at getting elected than Democrats. In that one arena, in how to win an election, they are smarter.
A big part of that game was Team Bush calling Gore and Kerry "elitist". What the **** does that even mean? They were basically saying, "These guys are smarter than me, so don't vote for them." How the **** did the GOP get people to follow that line of logic?
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
Originally posted by Guynemer
A big part of that game was Team Bush calling Gore and Kerry "elitist". What the **** does that even mean? They were basically saying, "These guys are smarter than me, so don't vote for them." How the **** did the GOP get people to follow that line of logic?
Hello, Mr. Literal. I'm amazed that you can't do the proper translation: Arrogant.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
Dude, have you seen how fast NASCAR is gaining in popularity in the US?
Edit: Cross-post
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Originally posted by Guynemer
Um... since when, exactly, does it "naturally" indicate that?
To me, all it indicates is someone who is really, really, really good.
That's only when it before something (elite carpenter, etc). By itself, it indicates... well, like a Boston Brahmin sort.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Kontiki
Dude, have you seen how fast NASCAR is gaining in popularity in the US?
It's because they are economically frustrated and bitter .
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Hello, Mr. Literal. I'm amazed that you can't do the proper translation: Arrogant.
To paraphrase Stewart:
I want someone who thinks they are better than me. If you don't think that you're smarter and could be better president than myself, then why the hell are you running?
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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