I think I could run an airline

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Zkribbler


It's not about pay offs. It's about hiring former FAA inspectors, and then having your "new employees" talk their buds back at the FAA to quash any inspections or citations.

Payoffs are also necessary. It's how you 'talk' to their buds, after all

[Wiglaf]

I'd like to see you try Asher. If there were some place you could put your money where your mouth is like a lemonade stand someone might believe you. But facts are facts: there is more to economics and airlines than you will ever know. For instance, did you know that you must hire baggage handlers in addition to pilots? One of those retards who forgets to close the cargo door before take off can bring your months of planning crashing to the ground, there would be nothing left These deckhand types don't come from Yale....they come from the third world and rural areas.

[Kuciwalker]

I'd like to see you try Asher. If there were some place you could put your money where your mouth is like a lemonade stand someone might believe you. But facts are facts: there is more to economics and airlines than you will ever know.

On the contrary, compscis should be especially qualified to run an airline...

[snoopy369]

Actually running an airline has nothing to do with compsci... it's called 'business'. MBA. That sort of thing.

Being at the top means knowing how to deal with people, and business acumen. The ability to manage databases is pretty useless there... for example, I'd be terrible at actually running an airline, but am a skilled programmer.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
I'd like to see you try Asher.

You and me both. Thanks Wiglaf, I appreciate your support.

If there were some place you could put your money where your mouth is like a lemonade stand someone might believe you. But facts are facts: there is more to economics and airlines than you will ever know. For instance, did you know that you must hire baggage handlers in addition to pilots? One of those retards who forgets to close the cargo door before take off can bring your months of planning crashing to the ground, there would be nothing left These deckhand types don't come from Yale....they come from the third world and rural areas.

Why do you even need pilots? Just remote control the plane. They take off and land pretty much automatically already anyway.

[Asher]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Actually running an airline has nothing to do with compsci... it's called 'business'. MBA. That sort of thing.

If you ever have a company remotely related to technology, hiring a person withouta tech background will kill it.

MBAs are the worst managers, categorically. They're stupid.

Airline profitability is more about route analysis than anything else. There's a lot of analysis involved here that is actually right up the ally of anyone in the maths areas.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Actually running an airline has nothing to do with compsci... it's called 'business'. MBA. That sort of thing.

Apart from the fact that efficient operations are completely dependent on the algorithms you use to pick routes, determine fares, etc.

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Asher

If you ever have a company remotely related to technology, hiring a person withouta tech background will kill it.

MBAs are the worst managers, categorically. They're stupid.

Airline profitability is more about route analysis than anything else. There's a lot of analysis involved here that is actually right up the ally of anyone in the maths areas.

At the level of smaller companies, I'd agree. Once you get to a certain size, however, I think that is incorrect. A tech background certainly helps, but at the size of American Airlines or whatever, you need to know how to actually manage people.

None of that analysis should be done by the CEO of a major airline. It should be done by people hired well down the line from the CEO.

[KrazyHorse]

Optimization

[Wiglaf]

It is dependent on a lot more that routes. They have compsci majors doing that crap anyway. I just want to see asher's proposed design for an airplane. Would probably be the biggest penis I ever seen.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by snoopy369
you need to know how to actually manage people

The idea that some people are good at "managing people" in general is probably the biggest crock of **** believed by the most people today.

True managerial skills tend to be focused on a specific set of operations.

[Asher]

Originally posted by snoopy369


At the level of smaller companies, I'd agree. Once you get to a certain size, however, I think that is incorrect. A tech background certainly helps, but at the size of American Airlines or whatever, you need to know how to actually manage people.

How much direct person management do you think the head of American Airlines does?

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


The idea that some people are good at "managing people" in general is probably the biggest crock of **** believed by the most people today.

True managerial skills tend to be focused on a specific set of operations.

Managerial skills involve being able to get other people to do what they are supposed to be doing, and want to do it. They are actual skills... and quite often technical people are terrible managers and vice versa. It's why many technical people change jobs after they hit the management level...

If you've never been a real manager (not just managing a couple of lab techs or a small project team, but actually managing a large amonut of people in all aspects of their jobs, over a long period of time) this is self evident.

Other than me, how many other people on these boards have been an actual manager, anyway? I doubt it's very many...

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Asher

How much direct person management do you think the head of American Airlines does?

He manages the CIO, CFO, and other high level folks. Admittedly I don't necessarily think CEOs do all that much in many companies, but in theory management is all he does, other than high level strategic directives.

[Kidlicious]

Re: I think I could run an airline

Originally posted by Asher
It seems they let idiots in charge of airlines these days.

And you are idiot?