Iran begins installing 6,000 new centrifuges

[classical_hero]

Originally posted by Agathon


No they aren't. Stop believing everything you see in Bruce Willis movies.

Of course they don't want to wipe countries off the face of the planet. Of course not, that must be AmeriKKKa

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by PLATO
Not to mention the fact that they have sworn to destroy Israel, a soverign country.

Cite?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by LordShiva


Cite?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/03/AR2006080300629.html

http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=15816

Was this just an exercise or were you truly unaware of his comments?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
One wonders, what would the reaction be, if a small western democracy like, let's say Finland, would drop out of the nuclear proliferation pact, and start it's own weaponization program?

Russia would tell Finland no and they'd say, "Yes, Master!"

You really should try to think things from the perspective of the basic iranian, not whoever happens to lead them.

Why? In the context of international relations, in what way is the opinions of the basic Iranian at all relevent to this issue?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Patroklos


Why do you hate brown people?

Because they are more attractive and have better rhythm.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Except Wales has nothing to offer or threaten, in any way, shape or form.

So then I have nothing to worry about...

It's like dip**** countries closer to them.

Does that mean Israel will have to stop killing Palestinians and stealing their land?

It doesn't threaten the USA.

Well, Israel will blackmail the US into attacking Iran and then people are going to want to kill your troops and crash planes into your buildings. Moreso than they're doing already, that is.

[Patroklos]

Oh, I figured it was becasue you assume they are unable to make national security decisions about their own countries.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by PLATO

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/03/AR2006080300629.html

http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=15816

Was this just an exercise or were you truly unaware of his comments?

No, I was just confused by who you meant when you said "they."

[Agathon]

Originally posted by SlowwHand

And Agathon, I couldn't care less about your opinion of of Texas in general, or me in particular.

Nice way of avoiding the argument. You were wrong about the oil thing. Get over it.

[Verto]

Originally posted by PLATO

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/03/AR2006080300629.html

http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=15816

Was this just an exercise or were you truly unaware of his comments?

I never thought I'd see you, PLATO, citing Al-Jazeera

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Verto


I never thought I'd see you, PLATO, citing Al-Jazeera

I try to keep up with a variety of sources. I wish I could do more. Al-Jazeera is actually on my "Favorites" list. Just because I think a lot of what they think is crap is no reason not to read them.

Unlike a lot of conservatives, my opinions don't come from what "Daddy" or "Preacher" says. In fact, I think that in a lot of ways the liberals have it right...if it were a perfect world. Since it isn't, then real world events require me to think through real world solutions. One of the great things about Poly is that there are many people who do this and come to different conclusions...and the debate makes us all better.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by PLATO

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/03/AR2006080300629.html

http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=15816

Was this just an exercise or were you truly unaware of his comments?

That's great, now do you realize that Ahmadinejad controls neither of the army and foreign policy ?

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
That's great, now do you realize that Ahmadinejad controls neither of the army and foreign policy ?

We already had that discussion.

The fact is that the grand leader did not suddenly stop, and say "hey, forget what he said, we don't mind Israel at all". Nothing of this was denied or criticized (if only as "tactically improper").

Ahmadinejad has enough of a power base, both on nuclear issues and in the national security council, to promote policy.

Sure, he does not have the final say. But his words certainly go with the general flow of Iran's campaign of hatred of Israel and Jews.

So the point whether he personally can launch a rocket is pointless.

You have Iranian leaders and intelligence agencies involved in arming, training and funding Hebullah, Islamic Jihad, and lately Hamas.

This is not a country that is peaceful to Israel.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris


That's great, now do you realize that Ahmadinejad controls neither of the army and foreign policy ?

Yeah...Did you notice that he was quoting Khomeini? But thanks for playing!

"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayat Allah Khomeini.

[Fake Boris]

Khomeiny has said that a long time ago, in a partisan rally.

You have to distinguish populist bull**** and pragmatic realism.

Iran would never nuke, that's freaking obvious.

As for supporting guerillas, the solution is a negociated peace with the Palestinians. Israel withdraws to the 67 borders and they've got a deal.

The truth is that America can't, for obvious reasons, recognize a regime that suppressed one of its allies (the Chah). And they can't let Iraq turn into a pro-Iranian state.

In both cases, they're receiving the quarters from their dollar of imperialism.