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  • Apple tring to push Safari onto Windows users

    In an apparent bid to rapidly gain share of the online browser market dominated by rival Microsoft, Apple is leveraging its vast iTunes install base to recommend that Windows users also download and install the latest version of its Safari web browser.


    Apple pushing Safari downloads on Windows users

    In an apparent bid to rapidly gain share of the online browser market dominated by rival Microsoft, Apple is leveraging its vast iTunes install base to recommend that Windows users also download and install the latest version of its Safari web browser.

    To date, Apple has sold over 100 million iPods, the majority of which have gone to Windows users who subsequently must install the company's iTunes software for synching files between their PCs and the digital media players. As part of iTunes, Apple also installs its Software Update mechanism on the Windows-based machines to notify users of iTunes updates, in addition to updates to its QuickTime media software required for several iTunes functions.

    It now appears that the Cupertino-based company aspires to use the advantage presented by the Software Update mechanism to muscle its way further up the browser charts at the expense Microsoft's Internet Explorer and other third-party Windows browsers.

    "Earlier today, Apple released the Safari 3.1 Web browser for Mac OS and Windows XP/Vista. A couple hours later, Apple Software Update popped up on my daughter's Sony VAIO, offering Safari 3.1 for download," noted Microsoft Watch's Joe Wilcox. "I didn't recall seeing an earlier version installed on the laptop. And I made no mistake: The Apple updater offered installation of new software, not something that had been there before. Whoa."

    Windows users receiving the notification are greeted with Apple's marketing pitch alongside the download option, which reads: "Safari for Windows is the fastest and easiest-to-use web browser for the PC. It displays web pages faster than any other browser and is filled with innovative features -- all delivered in an efficient and elegant user interface."
    In a statement released Monday alongside the release of Safari 3.1, Apple said the browser loads web pages 1.9 times faster than the current version of Internet Explorer and 1.7 times faster than Firefox 2.0. But when it comes to install base, Safari is world's behind.

    According to NetApplications, the Apple browser maintains an approximate 5.7 percent share of the market, a distant third to the well established presences of both FireFox and Internet Explorer, which hold a 17.2 percent and 74.8 percent share, respectively. But like FireFox, Safari is slowly eating away at Internet Explorer's commanding lead. Its share has risen nearly a full percentage point over the past twelve months, while the Microsoft browser has shed about 5 percent of its share.


    Nevermind their demonstrably bull**** speed claims, this is just slimey.

    I especially like how they try to disguise this as an "update" for users who maybe don't know what's going on. That's classy.
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  • #2
    Microsoft pre installs IE in every single one of it's operating systems, conveniently calling its own browser an essential "Windows component." Yes porn is important but so is choice, perhaps you should at least have the choice right Asher? To hell with you and your double standards, you are like the pit in my olive.

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    • #3
      Meh, that's silly... they should make it clear it's a new download and not an update.
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      • #4
        As a general rule I don't download anything from Apple. Ever since I tried Quicktime and found out it tried to take over EVERY music and video file on my computer I just haven't had faith in Apple products.
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        • #5
          Yeh, my iTunes downloaded it automatically. Before I know it, I have Safari installed. I think it's a slimy business practice too.
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          • #6
            Typical Apple
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #7
              Is there any real speed difference amongst the three browsers in the article?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wiglaf
                Microsoft pre installs IE in every single one of it's operating systems, conveniently calling its own browser an essential "Windows component." Yes porn is important but so is choice, perhaps you should at least have the choice right Asher? To hell with you and your double standards, you are like the pit in my olive.
                There are reasons for IE (and Webkit/Safari) to ship with the OS and be integrated as they are.

                This does not qualify for any of the reasons.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Geronimo
                  Is there any real speed difference amongst the three browsers in the article?
                  FF/Safari are both loads faster than IE.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wiglaf
                    ...you are like the pit in my olive.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DanS
                      Yeh, my iTunes downloaded it automatically. Before I know it, I have Safari installed. I think it's a slimy business practice too.
                      It is physically impossible for it to download automatically. That is not even a setting available in Apple Updater. If you were on Wall street I would yank your tie and bother you with my brief case. The program GIVES YOU A CHOICE and EXPLAINS EACH DOWNLOAD AVAILABLE.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wiglaf
                        Microsoft pre installs IE in every single one of it's operating systems, conveniently calling its own browser an essential "Windows component." Yes porn is important but so is choice, perhaps you should at least have the choice right Asher? To hell with you and your double standards, you are like the pit in my olive.
                        And good idea too, I wouldn't know how the hell to download FF after I format this machine.

                        Its not like I have to pay for it anyways...
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                        • #13
                          It's the natural law of things - the minute an oppressed minority gains power, they try and oppress their former oppressors.

                          It's the same thing here. Apple whines about MS and IE. Now they've got a user base, and now they are doing the things they whined about MS doing.
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                          • #14
                            It's not the same at all. You don't need iTunes like you need Windows. And Apple is offering a choice with iTunes; MS offers no choice of browser with its OS, please review your facts prior to making a post.

                            And good idea too, I wouldn't know how the hell to download FF after I format this machine.

                            Its not like I have to pay for it anyways...
                            They can include both, it's not like it's hard.

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                            • #15
                              I agree it's obnoxious. All bundled installs are

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