America = 20th Century, Rest of World = 21st Century

[Asher]

Originally posted by FrostyBoy
Left is Chicago, Right is Singapore.

Oh, aren't you smart.

[Lancer]

There's some big modern cities in Texas and Florida, then there's San Francisco out west, maybe a few more that I don't know about. The rest everyone would rather forget, except the folks that still live there. Rue the day you have to go to Newark airport. Newark used to be nice. Now the hotels around the airport are like armed camps. Gangs, drug dealers and pimps patrol the streets looking for people to do harm to each in their way. It's kind of like I've heard Paris is fast becoming.

[Asher]

Originally posted by FrostyBoy
The going trend nowadays, in the developed countries I have been to anyway, is to constantly upgrade, say every 10 years.

I don't think you've been many places, or intelligent ones. Every 10 years to renovate subway stations (as per your OP) completely? That's just a waste of money.

[Will9]

Originally posted by Aeson
Americans mostly care about how shiney their car is, not how shiney their public transportation is.

I thought this common knowledge around the world already.

[q=frostyboy]And that is the sad thing, has America forgotten its big cities? Are they slowly being handed over to foriegners, looking for a job, but don't care of the city's future?[/q]

Americans just don't like living in cities. Why live in the cramped city when you could live in the suburbs?

[FrostyBoy]

Let's play a game.

Top is Singapore, bottom Chicago.

Singapore: Spot a car made in the 80's

Chicago: Spot a car made in the 90's.

[Wezil]

: popcorn :

[Aeson]

Originally posted by Will
I thought this common knowledge around the world already.

You'd think so, but this thread is here...

[FrostyBoy]

Asher, that is not Singapore. Feel smart now?


Also, I have been to many developed countries and cities, and under developed ones too.

[Aeson]

Originally posted by FrostyBoy
Top is Singapore, bottom Chicago.

Um... are you sure?

Last I checked we drove on the right side of the road.

[Lancer]

Americans love living in cities. A clean, functioning city full of peaceful civic minded people is an attraction to many. Our cities however have been abandoned by anyone with money enough to leave because there are none of the above to be found in them anymore because we had to address the inequalities in education through forced bussing. I was there, I saw the stampede to the burbs, I was part of that. After that New York just about went bankrupt. Funny world. Destroyed the cities and you still can't get a decent education there. That was the big liberal effort of the 70s.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Aeson
Um... are you sure?

Last I checked we drove on the right side of the road.

[Ming]

Yeah... I thought that was pretty funny too, especially since he pointed at Asher's pictures

[FrostyBoy]

Originally posted by Asher

I don't think you've been many places, or intelligent ones. Every 10 years to renovate subway stations (as per your OP) completely? That's just a waste of money.

Upgrade does not mean 100% upgrade, it just means adding something new or replacing something old. Like your computer. You want more ram, add more ram, you don't have to change the whole system to do so.

For example, in Singapore, in the past year or so, and this year, ALL MRT stations have elevators installed. Before, only a few had them. In 5 years time, perhaps all card readers will change, or plants will be installed, or better lighting.

It's an on going thing, and it's good, like I stated before, it creates jobs, keeps the economy on the move, people are happier and things run smoother.

[Patroklos]

Patroklos, I already explained myself in the post above you, the going trend these days is to upgrade every 10 years, Singapore does an even better job at it - every 5 years and it seems to be growing exponentially.

I doubt that is correct, feel free to back it up. And in any case, where the hell else is Singapore going to build if not on top of itself.



Above, the Singapore metro owned by what many would say is not our best urban center.

[FrostyBoy]

Hmm.. perhaps the image had been flipped? It does kinda look like chicago. I better check again. Anyway my point is that Chicago barely has any modern cars - and clean ones at that.

You will be hard pressed to find a car older than 10 years in Singapore, and pretty much impossible to find a dirty one.


edit: Ok that image of the cars is London, no wonder that red bus had me confused.