Intolerant Jewish fundamentalists suck.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Sure Israel is comparable to Iran. Both countries suck.

In the same sense that you are comparable to Ziod. Both of you spend most of your time unemployed reading socialist pamphlets.

[Berzerker]

The differences are astonishing, and stupid generalizations will do nothing to promote your point.

Does that mean Israel is more like Nazi Germany than Iran?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
In the same sense that you are comparable to Ziod. Both of you spend most of your time unemployed reading socialist pamphlets.

Even if that were true, that would still make me me better than you, you little fascist.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Does that mean Israel is more like Nazi Germany than Iran?

Comparisons to the Nazis are ludicrous, and do more harm to the cause of peace and justice than good. Most rational people will find such comparisons ridiculous and will not then consider any supporting evidence to support the claim that the Palestinians are an oppressed, colonized people. You're much better off making a comparison to Apartheid South Africa and the Occupied Territories to the Bantustands.

[Berzerker]

my question was for Sirot and it was a joke

[Zevico]

the cause of peace and justice than good

This seems strange. Peace and justice are not independent from the parties. You cannot take the 'side' of peace and justice. You can only take a side.
Most Palestinians seek peace without any Israeli state--in other words, a war of annihilation. They do this by either (a) support for its outright destruction; or (b) support for a 'Right of Return' effectively destroying the concept of a Jewish State by allowing millions of Palestinians into Israel. The number of Palestinians seeking peace without a 'right of return' are, unfortunately, a small minority.
Israelis seek (a) a stop to terrorism and (b) to increase their territories via the settlement movement (though there is lots of bickering in this regard). As a subset of (a), most Israelis are willing to recognise a Palestinian state. For the moment that option, given the Palestinian's goals, is impossible. Thus they are left with only security measures to achieve their first goal in as much as they can.
In other words, this war will continue until:
1. The Palestinians recognise the concept of a Jewish state living next to them; or
2. The Israelis surrender and Israel is destroyed.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

Actually, you are more like an unemployed 30 year old who thinks he knows everything, basing his knowledge on rumors and stuff he read in political pamphlets. Sadly you make posts that show your misguided and misinterpreted beliefs.

The Israeli system is an unstable parliamentary democracy who suffers from nieche parties that abuse the government and use their coalition weight to force in their beliefs in some areas of law.

The Iranian system is a theocracy ruled by an oligarchy of self-appointed clerics, the leader of whom is considered a living representative of god. The theocracy oversees a well controlled presidential democracy, which has a democratic game that is controlled and bound (but not staged!) and eventually does not have the final say in government.

The differences are astonishing, and stupid generalizations will do nothing to promote your point.

Meh, same ****. Different name...

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

In the same sense that you are comparable to Ziod. Both of you spend most of your time unemployed reading socialist pamphlets.

And how is that worse than being in the armed forces of an llegal state actively upholding an apartheid system? The money you earn is tainted with the blood of countless palestinians...

[Kidlicious]

Sitting around reading socialist material

Working

[rah]

A little chill on the name calling is called for.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Zevico

This seems strange. Peace and justice are not independent from the parties. You cannot take the 'side' of peace and justice. You can only take a side.
Most Palestinians seek peace without any Israeli state--in other words, a war of annihilation. They do this by either (a) support for its outright destruction; or (b) support for a 'Right of Return' effectively destroying the concept of a Jewish State by allowing millions of Palestinians into Israel. The number of Palestinians seeking peace without a 'right of return' are, unfortunately, a small minority.
Israelis seek (a) a stop to terrorism and (b) to increase their territories via the settlement movement (though there is lots of bickering in this regard). As a subset of (a), most Israelis are willing to recognise a Palestinian state. For the moment that option, given the Palestinian's goals, is impossible. Thus they are left with only security measures to achieve their first goal in as much as they can.
In other words, this war will continue until:
1. The Palestinians recognise the concept of a Jewish state living next to them; or
2. The Israelis surrender and Israel is destroyed.

Considering how things stand now, the gradual extermination of the Palestinians seems quite possible. Not that I'm taking anyone's side here. I think some unimpressive but peaceful country like Switzerland ought to offer sane people from both countries a "right of escape" so they can leave and let the nuts die for their promised lands.

[Arrian]

Sane country with some room to spare. Like, say, the United States. Send them to Kansas. If there are problems, send in the Texans...

-Arrian

[rah]

yes, the joke going around was give them Utah.
It might solve our mormon problem.

[Zoid]

I think it's safe to say that intolerance sucks, period! There's enough of that to go around several times...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Arrian
Sane country with some room to spare.

Why give them a country to begin with?