Police Department kills 4 students...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Arrian
Possible solution that don't involve mass deportations:

Question (serious one):

Who in this thread has mentioned the words mass deportations other than you? Also how do you get all the straw from your hair?

If a person is pulled over and lacks a valid license, what happens? They get a ticket, right? Anything else? Is there followup? Is proving citizenship part of it? Does it even come into play?

I was threatened with arrest after an accident when I couldn't produce the license fast enough for the cop's tastes and he started to think I didn't have one.

[Arrian]

Fair enough. No one. I don't think it's a grave distortion of your position, though (just a minor distortion ).

I was threatened with arrest after an accident when I couldn't produce the license fast enough for the cop's tastes and he started to think I didn't have one.

Interesting. I was hoping for more than an anecdote, though. We need Donegeal...

-Arrian

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by Arrian
Question (serious one):

If a person is pulled over and lacks a valid license, what happens? They get a ticket, right? Anything else? Is there followup? Is proving citizenship part of it? Does it even come into play?

What I'm getting at is whether or not the cop who cited her for driving w/o a license in 2006 really "failed to do his job." I'm not sure that's the case.

-Arrian

Usually arrested.

Oerdin?

Not quite as bad.

[Wezil]

Usually not arrested here, but you guys do things differently.

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by Arrian
Fair enough. No one. I don't think it's a grave distortion of your position, though (just a minor distortion ).



Interesting. I was hoping for more than an anecdote, though. We need Donegeal...

-Arrian

Driving without a license is a crime, hence you are usually arrested for it. This is so obvious I wonder if you are even old enough to drive, or to do a simple google search

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2006/rpt/2006-R-0072.htm

Usually not arrested here, but you guys do things differently.

Yes crime is punished here

[Asher]

Yes crime is punished here

If that were true, the man in your avatar would be getting teh buttsecks in prison.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Wiglaf

Yes crime is punished here

They get punished here as well. It would be perfect for you, they accept credit cards.

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by Asher

Yes crime is punished here

If that were true, the man in your avatar would be getting teh buttsecks in prison.

You are wrong on two counts, namely that Alberto broke no laws (I'm actually curious to what you could possibly be talking about) and that anal sex in prison happens primarily to people who are asking for it. A Human Rights Watch survey demonstrated only 50 or so people in 5 different states were raped anally in prison in 2002, and there is no way of knowing how many of them were lying to get sympathy. Please check your facts before talking about your warped notion of prison and fetishes.

[Asher]

Alberto is a republican, he was undoubtedly screwing male pages in airport restrooms and he will undoubtedly be begging for it in prison. By definition.

[Theben]

The real question is, why is DD reading NPR press releases?!

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by Arrian
We need Donegeal...

QFT!!!

Driving without a valid DL is an arrestable crime, but is not required. In this instance, although she did not have a valid DL, she did have a valid ID. Since the officer could confirm who she was, there was no need to arrest her.

Now if she (or anyone for that matter) could not produce a valid ID to confirm who she was, then she should have been brought in. Its all about being able to identify someone. A wants and warrants check is a large part of what takes an officer so long to get back to you after taking your DL/ID back to his squad. No ID, no check. No check, hold until they are cleared (pending what the charge is).

The officer did nothing wrong in letting her go.

In DD account, 'threatened' is a very vague term. I'm sure he can clarify, but simply stating that "Driving without a valid DL is an arrestable offense." has been confused with a threat when it could have been merely informational.

[Wezil]

So we don't do it differently.

Similar priors are another factor considered in my experience.

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by Donegeal


QFT!!!

Driving without a valid DL is an arrestable crime, but is not required. In this instance, although she did not have a valid DL, she did have a valid ID. Since the officer could confirm who she was, there was no need to arrest her.

Now if she (or anyone for that matter) could not produce a valid ID to confirm who she was, then she should have been brought in. Its all about being able to identify someone. A wants and warrants check is a large part of what takes an officer so long to get back to you after taking your DL/ID back to his squad. No ID, no check. No check, hold until they are cleared (pending what the charge is).

The officer did nothing wrong in letting her go.

In DD account, 'threatened' is a very vague term. I'm sure he can clarify, but simply stating that "Driving without a valid DL is an arrestable offense." has been confused with a threat when it could have been merely informational.

This is ridiculous, you didn't read the whole story. In 2006 she drove into someone's yard without a license and was only ticketed. This is a clear problem because she gave a false name. THIS IS WHY YOU ARREST PEOPLE WITH NO LICENSE OR A SUSPENDED LICENSE. If they are not qualified to drive and/or cannot definitively ID themselves, they go to jail.

I have no idea where you are a cop -- perhaps they do it this way in the boonies, but in the real world, driving without a license/suspended license is punishable by about a month in jail and a suspended license for a year. It is when cops make dumb judgments like this one in the story (and like you apparently do all the time) that crap like this happens.

[Wezil]

If you want to incarcerate everyone caught driving w/o a licence you better start building more jails. It is a rather common charge unfortunately.

[Asher]

US already has 1 out of every 100 in jail, what's a few more?