What's wrong with watching child porn?

[onodera]

Well, other than being a sick f*ck, but it's a mental illness, not a crime. Why do you have to go to jail if they find a copy on your PC? It's not like you personally forced that kid to do that. It's like being jailed for buying sweatshop-made sneakers.
The people who shoot it deserve to be punished severely (cruel and unusual punishment ), but why do they jail people who watch it? At least they're fulfilling their sick fantasies with their fist and a computer screen, not with a crying kid in a fake ice cream van.

[BeBMan]

It is defined as a crime by law (in countries I know).

[Darius871]

Even though viewers don't produce it, by creating a market for it they're at the very least increasing the total amount produced.

[Kidlicious]

Re: What's wrong with watching child porn?

Originally posted by onodera
Why do you have to go to jail if they find a copy on your PC?

So that you don't **** with a child. You should actually kill yourself, but since you won't you belong in jail.

[onodera]

Originally posted by Darius871
Even though viewers don't produce it, by creating a market for it they're at the very least increasing the total amount produced.

I think we should also jail drug users and subprime borrowers, then. And people who buy sweatshop-made sneakers, as I have already said.

[Dr Strangelove]

If you bought the child porn then you've paid the person who did it, so you would clearly have been an accomplice.
It can be argued that viewing the stuff increases your desire to experience the act first hand, and so endangers children in general.

[Winston]

What's wrong with watching child porn?

The image quality is often sub-par, and these days it's also increasingly hard to even locate the darned thing.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by onodera

I think we should also jail drug users and subprime borrowers, then. And people who buy sweatshop-made sneakers, as I have already said.

Uh, we do jail drug users in this country.

[Deity Dude]

Why is it OK to view other crimes - even worse crimes (like murder). I highly doubt witching a film of the Kennedy Assassination or the 9/11 attacks makes me an accomplice.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Deity Dude
Why is it OK to view other crimes - even worse crimes (like murder). I highly doubt witching a film of the Kennedy Assassination or the 9/11 attacks makes me an accomplice.

The Zagruder film of the Kennedy assassination was a home movie of a news event. It wasn't a snuff film. I'd also jail those people who buy films/videos produced for profit by murderers of the deaths of their victims.

[SlowwHand]

Re: What's wrong with watching child porn?

Originally posted by onodera
Well, other than being a sick f*ck, but it's a mental illness, not a crime. Why do you have to go to jail if they find a copy on your PC? It's not like you personally forced that kid to do that. It's like being jailed for buying sweatshop-made sneakers.
The people who shoot it deserve to be punished severely (cruel and unusual punishment ), but why do they jail people who watch it? At least they're fulfilling their sick fantasies with their fist and a computer screen, not with a crying kid in a fake ice cream van.

You don't know where it starts, continues or ends.

For this to even be a question is disgusting.

[Riesstiu IV]

He's on to this thread!

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
If you bought the child porn then you've paid the person who did it, so you would clearly have been an accomplice.

But if you aren't paying for it, then you wouldn't be? I'm not aware of how child porn rings actually work, but if you got hold of it without paying, would you still be an accomplice?

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
It can be argued that viewing the stuff increases your desire to experience the act first hand, and so endangers children in general.

Couldn't it also be argued that it provides a safe outlet for someone with these (obviously perverse) feelings? I know many guys who say that using regular porn stops them wanting to sleep with girls who aren't their girlfriend, as it provides an imaginary outlet.

I saw an interview with one of the priest in the UK who was accused of abusing young boys. As well as seeming utterly tortured by it, he talked of how he'd tried not to, and been successful for periods of time, but found it impossible to fully repress his feelings. While obviously morally there's a huge difference (in terms of consent), it could be considered akin to some of the people who are gay but desperately do not wish to be (for example the people helped by organisations that try to 'cure' gay people), in terms of the battle to overcome the individual's feelings that they believe is wrong.

I agree, it's a sick perversion, but the main thing is to stop them abusing children. I don't necessarily think criminalising the ownership of child porn in the way it is is the best method to do this. I think psychological help, and the targetting of those that create child pornography, is a better way to stop it happening.

[Deity Dude]

Re: Re: What's wrong with watching child porn?

Originally posted by SlowwHand


You don't know where it starts, continues or ends.

For this to even be a question is disgusting.

What if watching it gives the sicko enough "pleasure" that he doesn't feel compelled to act on his urges. It could actually be therapuetic if not at least preventative. Especially if the "child-porn" is computer generated and not even real.

And ZKribbler:

So what your are saying is

a: You would be OK if a news team filmed the child porn and showed it for no charge or for a news subscription fee

b: Have you ever heard of the series "Faces of Death." These are films of murders and other graphically violent deaths that are sold for profit. Would you outlaw this.

BTW: Zapruder was not a journalist. What he did (which is exactly the distinction you made to make something illegal) was take a home movie of a murder and sold it for millions.

[Jon Miller]

You guys are a bunch of sick ****s.

Those who watch child porn are much more likely to engage in child molestation then the general populace.

Additionally, pornography supports and legitamizes what it is showing. Look at how anal sex has went from being rare to being very common.

There isn't such a problem with general pornography (although there is still serious problems with normal pornography, and we would be far better off without it) because it shows accepted sex (often, although the violent stuff...).

JM