We're getting some censorship here

[Julian Delphiki]

Clear conclusion is that DEMOCRACY leads to CHILD PORN.

Media is still way too quiet about this. Why is that?

[Pekka]

Why would they be interested in it? It's not an interesting topic. I mean it is but it isn't. Plus, that could lead to trouble. Better stfu and write about the Oscars or something.

You know it's the principle of it as well. When you start censoring the internet with a secret list, and there's allk inds of sites going to it that were not supposed to be there... and it seems no one is being the watchdog here, what kind of a message does it send? I mean the principle has been already broken. that's it. There is no turning back. So there. I'd like to see the people who happily apply these things into our system though. Who are these *****? Who is the person who can say yes, I censor the internet and It hink it's a good thing!

wtf?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by JulianD
Clear conclusion is that DEMOCRACY leads to CHILD PORN.

It's more like it leads to people calling people phedophiles.

Media is still way too quiet about this. Why is that?

It's entertaining maybe.

[Pekka]

holy f'ing s**t... it gets worse by the day. I mean seriously, why is there no real opposition here? This is the latest news from crap paper (yet one of the most popular):

Child porn filter leaks!

wtf? So now it's called child porn filter? Adn you know why it "leaks"? The reason is, not ALL ISPs have yet fully complied with the secret lists that the police has. The police cannot right now enforce ISPs to block the sites on their lists, it's optional at the moment. But this is changing too, our lovely minister tries to have a LAW that ISPs _have_ to comply. Meaning that whatever secret list of sites the police manages, the ISPs have to filter those sites at the request of the police. How those lists are formed and who really controls them, no one knows or it seems to me is entitled to know.

THere is this one small ISP that refuses to go down with this, so the minister quickly has replied, that you have to wonder if we are all in the same field here, I mean this is kiddie porn right here. wtf?!?!?!?!? SO now you're threatning businesses as well? Who the **** is this minister and where does she come from... hell?

I guess it's not really against the law as long as you have it optional, even though the purpose is to create a de facto state of compliance anyway. So what the media is now doing basically is listing ISPs who are "making child porn filter to leak". wtf? I mean seriously, can you be more misleading!?!?!?

This is very disturbing. This is an organized effort to censor the internet and everyone who is against it is being marginalized from organizations to individuals as kiddie porn enthusiast.

[Pekka]

Our minister strikes again.

Now she is angry at people who are criticizing her. Saying that what's the matter with filtering the internet, if you have child porno in a library, the cops will come and take it away. Why doesn't the same apply everywhere. Then she continues that people have said she doesn't know what she's talking about, to which she replies that people who say that don't know what they're talking about.

WOooooooooow the argumenting skills of hers!!! I bow to her supremacy! What a douche!

[Julian Delphiki]

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This is what policy would do if similar censoring would be implemented to book stores

[Pekka]

Yeah, but this is an easy one to win for the politicians. Keep the porno card held high.

The odl people don't know what it means. The internet, what, how is this an issue of freedom of speech? That generation actually fought and died in bunches for self rule but they don't really know what the internet is, except a big repository for illegal stuff that is alienating people from reality, like a big video game. So this is an easy thing for anyone who wants to defend censorship.

Media shows their true colours once again. NOTHING on people who are against this. It's just minister this and that, answering to critique. Ok so what was the question she's answering? No one knows. Who asked? No one knows. Minister says people are stupid, and that's that. One sided debate. I guess it's the media cohesion in the mainstream that prevents any kind of criticism. Then again, if no criticism or showing the opposing side of the issue, it's nothing but a blowhorn for the politicians.

[onodera]

Oh, Pekka. I think I might get Poly blocked in Finland.
Look at all the CP advocacy in the other thread.

[Pekka]

*shhhhhhhhhhhh*

[Julian Delphiki]

Nah, if it actually reads CP somewhere here this is site is not going to end up on censor list with 99% certainty... remembering that list's history this far.

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by Pekka
Yeah, but this is an easy one to win for the politicians. Keep the porno card held high.

politicians often seek to demonise those who don't agree with official line.

don't believe in uncontrolled immigration? what, are you some kind of RACIST!?!

think that the money we pour into public services is badly spent? you want to close schools and hospitals you HEARTLESS MONSTER

concerned about the free speech implications of censoring the internet? so you like to touch children, you SICK ****.

it's easy for them to do, and sadly, there's no shortage of examples.

[Pekka]

THe thing that worries me the most is that we aren't in a crisis or close to one. I wonder what happens when an actual crisis hits... wow.

[LordShiva]

Sensuuri teh lapsiporno?

[Tattila the Hun]

Don't diss teh Amiga.