Primary Thread IV: Texas Black Gold or Pennsylvania Coal for Clinton?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Bosh
It seems that what was happening was the reporters wanted to publish it months ago and the management kept on throwing obstacles in the way either out of general gutlessness or because of McCain's lawyers being on their ass.

Or they wanted evidence?

[Bosh]

Opinion of my Korean students about the dem candidates (I showed my debate class a few clips from the old Las Vegas debate):

-Tim Russert is a tomato head.
-Clinton is a grandmother.
-Obama looks the oldest
-Obama is a gorilla
-Edwards has fake smiles.
-Obama is the most honest.
-Edwards wants sympathy.
-Clinton reminds them of their class president who promised to work hard and then never did anything.
-Clinton is smart.

[Zkribbler]

Interesting cross-section of opinions, Bosh.

I'm a little concerned that the "gorilla" statment might be racists...but maybe it's just a reference to Obama's voice.

And I just plain don't get the comment that Obama looks the oldest.

Tim Russert is a tomato head.

[Bosh]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
I'm a little concerned that the "gorilla" statment might be racists...but maybe it's just a reference to Obama's voice.

Nope, definite racism, which I talked to the kid about. There's a great deal of casual racism in Asia.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Bosh


Nope, definite racism, which I talked to the kid about. There's a great deal of casual racism in Asia.

My fear was that the kid views Obama as a lesser species because of the color of his skin.

[snoopy369]

ZK, if you haven't read any of the stuff on Hines Ward (a black/Korean who was raised initially in Korea) do so ... there's a lot of the racism in Korea (and probably elsewhere also as Bosh says). The sort where if you marry a non-Korean, particularly a black or some other 'obvious' race, you are very severely ostracized, as is the child...

One of Hines' goals with winning the superbowl was to parlay some of that immense popularity in Korea he achieved as a result into better race relations in Korea. There are apparently a decent number of kids like him, children of black soldiers and Korean wives, and he wants to improve their lot.

[Bosh]

Originally posted by snoopy369
ZK, if you haven't read any of the stuff on Hines Ward (a black/Korean who was raised initially in Korea) do so ... there's a lot of the racism in Korea (and probably elsewhere also as Bosh says). The sort where if you marry a non-Korean, particularly a black or some other 'obvious' race, you are very severely ostracized, as is the child...

One of Hines' goals with winning the superbowl was to parlay some of that immense popularity in Korea he achieved as a result into better race relations in Korea. There are apparently a decent number of kids like him, children of black soldiers and Korean wives, and he wants to improve their lot.

Yes, Hines Ward has done a lot of good stuff for mixed-race kids in Korea, who tend to be treated pretty badly here.

Things are changing, but there's still things like National Geographic videos of African tribesmen and whatnot dubbed in Korean with the Koreans commentators laughing at how barbarian they are.

[DinoDoc]

DNC-Appointed Superdelegates Support Clinton 3-1

Hillary Clinton currently leads Barack Obama by a wide margin among superdelegates appointed by the Democratic National Committee (DNC). Clinton maintains an approximately 3-1 lead among these DNC superdelegates, although Barack Obama has recently surpassed her in pledged delegates and gained eleven superdelegates in the past week.

Superdelegates appointed by the DNC are party officials, like Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean, as well as current and former elected officeholders at the local and state level. These superdelegates are not chosen on the basis of candidate support, and are considered unpledged until they cast their votes. Still, about a third of them have already come out in support of either Obama or Clinton. Superdelegates appointed by the DNC make up close to half of all superdelegates, which all together will have 20 percent of the total votes at the upcoming Democratic National Convention. The rest of the superdelegates are high elected officials, who automatically get superdelegate status, such as members of Congress.

DNC-appointed superdelegates who've pledged support for Clinton include Patti Higgins, chairwoman of the Alaska Democratic Party, and Rhett Ruggerio, a national committeeman for the Delaware Democratic Party who was listed as a member of Clinton's Delaware steering committee. There are nearly 100 in all, and they come from more than 40 states and the District of Columbia, including three from Arkansas, 10 from New York and one from Illinois.

Obama's supporters among the DNC-appointed superdelegates only number around 30, including seven from Illinois and none from Arkansas or New York. They come from close to 30 states, as well as D.C. Martha Fuller Clark, a state senator from New Hampshire, is one of Obama's supporters, and was listed as a member of his New Hampshire Environmentalists for Obama Steering Committee.

More than 200 of these DNC superdelegates have yet to come out in favor of either candidate, a voting group large enough to perhaps have a serious impact at the Convention in August, while the more than 100 who have come out in support of a candidate are still free to change their minds.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-freedman/dncappointed-superdelega_b_87108.html

[Guynemer]

If Obama goes into the convention with the lead in pledged delegates, he will get enough superdelegates to put him over the top. I mean, I know the Democratic Party is run by idiots, but there is no way on God's green earth they can be THIS stupid.

Can they?

[Ramo]

Nope. Obama has cut Clinton's superdelegate lead by something like a third over the past few weeks. They're going with the winner, and abandoning the loser.

[Winston]

Laura Ingraham, another influential conservative radio host, asserted that the Times waited until McCain was on the brink of the Republican presidential nomination and now is seeking to "contaminate" him with an article that she calls "absurd" and "ridiculous."

lol

McCain: -Hey! You take that back, lady.

[Dinner]

This is apparently McCain's attempt to win over wacky right wingers. Pretend to be a victim of the "liberal media" so that brain damaged talk radio listeners rush to his support. Given the limited intellectual abilities of the average talk radio listener it will probably work too.

[snoopy369]

Keep on going there Oerdin... make sure you check your tin foil for bird droppings while you're at it

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Why? Because real right-winger leaders can't keep it in their pants?

Like Bill Clinton or John Kennedy? Give me a break.

[DaShi]

That's 2 in 50 years. How many republican's have been caught in the last 5?