HA HA! Take that Chavez!

[Arrian]

Yeah, every time a foreign company invests in a country, it's being unethical. By definition, right? No need to actually know anything about the practices in this case (which I suspect neither of us knows anything about). Clearly, Exxon is teh evil and Chavez was just redressing the horrible wrong that was Exxon's investment in his country.

I agree the oil is more valuable and that Chavez probably doesn't care overmuch. Granted, if he really didn't care, maybe he'd have bought them out.

I actually wish them luck down there with their Bolivarian paradise. I just think it's unfair for a country to seek foreign investment, get it, and then steal it.

-Arrian

[Kidlicious]

Jesus. I can't stop crying for ****ing Exxon. Boo hoo.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Jesus. I can't stop crying for ****ing Exxon. Boo hoo.

Yes. Everyone and everything with more money than you is evil. We know. We get it. Move on.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Yes. Everyone and everything with more money than you is evil. We know. We get it. Move on.

I didn't say they were evil. They aren't good or evil. They are a corporation. Not a person. Get it? Jeez.

[Elok]

Corporations aren't evil. Only people who work for corporations are evil.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Elok
Corporations aren't evil. Only people who work for corporations are evil.

And stupid.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Arrian
Yeah, every time a foreign company invests in a country, it's being unethical.

Oh come on. Everyone knows how it works. Let's say I mount a military coup and take over an oil producing country. I then allow in oil companies on the cheap as long as they pay me backhanders. The citizens of my country, who own the drilling rights to the oil (if anyone does) get nothing, except perhaps sick from the pollution which I'm looking the other way about.

That's how these ****s do business. Ask the Nigerians or any number of of other people who have been ****ed over by corrupt oil company practices. Venezuela before Chavez was just such an oligarchy. No reasonable person denies this.

Perhaps we should hold Exxon accountable for funding bull**** climate change science and setting back progress on combating climate change for years. It's quite likely that these delays will end up costing hundreds of thousands if not millions of human lives. Yet this will now likely happen because Exxon needs to make a buck.

You are talking about a company here that has still not paid the fine for the 10 million gallons of crude one of its ships dumped into the Alaskan wilderness nearly 20 years ago. They have absolutely no shame. IIRC I seem to remember them hanging around Iraq in recent times, like the vultures they are.

These people are criminals of the first order. The executives of Exxon deserve nothing less than to be dragged from their beds and shot. They know exactly what they are doing, and they simply don't give a ****.

Look, I'm well known for saying that Microsoft is a company with questionable business practices, but all Ballmer and company do is make third rate software and game consoles that keep breaking down. It's dime store stuff compared to what the oil companies do. If you take the top 20 serial killers of all time, and match their death count against total deaths attributable to oil company malfeasance, its not even close.

By definition, right? No need to actually know anything about the practices in this case (which I suspect neither of us knows anything about). Clearly, Exxon is teh evil and Chavez was just redressing the horrible wrong that was Exxon's investment in his country.

Everyone knows they were bent. La Apertura was a pretty blunt policy straight from the playbook if you ask me. An oligarchy taking bribes from foreign companies... again.

I agree the oil is more valuable and that Chavez probably doesn't care overmuch. Granted, if he really didn't care, maybe he'd have bought them out.

I actually wish them luck down there with their Bolivarian paradise. I just think it's unfair for a country to seek foreign investment, get it, and then steal it.

The Venezuelans aren't the thieves here. Corporations that do deals with anti-democratic regimes in full knowledge that the deal is much sweeter than what they would get were that country a proper democracy, deserve to lose because they are stealing from the people. That particular logic is unanswerable.

But in the end, Chavez has the oil. That makes him the man, whatever Exxon might say.

[Lancer]

A man whose wallet is not so heavy as once it was, and that seems a good thing.

Besides, ask Saddam how having the oil helped him.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Yes. Everyone and everything with more money than you is evil. We know. We get it. Move on.

Who's "we"? I'm guessing you are referring to you and the rest of your "My parents pay for everything, so I am going to lecture poor people on the value of hard work, even though I know nothing and am an ignorant blowhard" crowd.

Yes..?

Ah good... could I be moar riter!?!?!?!

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Lancer
A man whose wallet is not so heavy as once it was, and that seems a good thing.

Besides, ask Saddam how having the oil helped him.

I'd love to see your army of Arkies and Okies try to subjugate urban Caracas. And you think that you Yanks have a gun culture...

Your outfitters wouldn't be able to make new pants faster than your gutless excuses for "soldiers" would be fillin 'em.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Lancer
A man whose wallet is not so heavy as once it was, and that seems a good thing.

Besides, ask Saddam how having the oil helped him.

It sure helps Exxon.

[Patroklos]

Who's "we"? I'm guessing you are referring to you and the rest of your "My parents pay for everything, so I am going to lecture poor people on the value of hard work, even though I know nothing and am an ignorant blowhard" crowd.

Oh, is this where you pretend you pulled yourself out of the gutter in your Stalin fantacy?

[Lancer]

"Your outfitters wouldn't be able to make new pants faster than your gutless excuses for "soldiers" would be fillin 'em."

Mister, you're off my Christmas list.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Patroklos


Oh, is this where you pretend you pulled yourself out of the gutter in your Stalin fantacy?

In the capitalist system? Never.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Agathon


I'd love to see your army of Arkies and Okies try to subjugate urban Caracas. And you think that you Yanks have a gun culture...

Your outfitters wouldn't be able to make new pants faster than your gutless excuses for "soldiers" would be fillin 'em.