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    Exxon has won an important court case vs the Government of Venezuela in Europe. At the heart of the matter is Chavez's seizure of Exxon property in Venezuela without compensation. Exxon has sued in both the UK and the Netherlands asking for Venezuelan state assets to be frozen and for damages to be paid to Exxon out of those assets. Exxon won and now $36 billion of state assets have been frozen in will likely end up sold at auction in order to pay for Chavez's theft.

    Exxon in Venezuela asset freeze
    US oil giant Exxon Mobil has said it has won a court order to freeze up to $36bn (£18bn) in Venezuelan assets.

    The firm has been fighting for compensation since Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez took its stake in heavy oil projects in the country last June.

    A British court has now ordered that Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA cannot sell any of its assets, up to a value of $12bn, Exxon said.

    Assets worth $24bn were frozen in the Netherlands and Netherlands Antilles.

    Last year Exxon took its case to the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

    It has not said how much compensation it wants for the 41.7% stake in the Orinoco Belt oil field - worth an estimated $750m (£370m).

    Proven reserves

    Venezuela took over the oil project as part of a nationalisation drive.

    President Chavez's government took control of exploration projects in the Orinoco Belt, which had been among the last privately-run fields in the country.

    It is the country's most important oil area, with massive potential.

    There are proven reserves of at least 80 billion barrels, but there could be enough there to make Venezuela the world's biggest source of oil.

    Four major companies - US-based Chevron, the UK's BP, French group Total and Norway's Statoil - accepted the government's move.

    Only Exxon and ConocoPhillips refused to accept the terms of the deal, which made them junior partners in the project, by the June deadline.

    Officials in Venezuela and at PDVSA declined to comment.
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      What sorts of assets would the Venezuelan government have that are even subject to British and Dutch jurisdiction, I wonder? Just some liquid accounts?

      Evidently Chavez's cronies were at least smart enough to yank any seizable assets out of the US, or Exxon would have stuck them with a pre-judgment attachment by now...
      Last edited by Darius871; February 7, 2008, 23:38.
      Unbelievable!

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      • #4
        Ah Legality, the nemesis of Hugo Chavez.

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        • #5
          I guess Exxon won't be doing business in VE anymore.

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          • #6
            guess Exxon won't be doing business in VE anymore.
            Along with everyone else.

            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Darius871
              What sorts of assets would the Venezuelan government have that are even subject to British and Dutch jurisdiction, I wonder? Just some liquid accounts?

              Evidently Chavez's cronies were at least smart enough to yank any seizable assets out of the US, or Exxon would have stuck them with a pre-judgment attachment by now...
              Hmm, have the spun off the citgo stuff yet? the refineries? No matter, the CIA still has a little influence here.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Darius871
                What sorts of assets would the Venezuelan government have that are even subject to British and Dutch jurisdiction, I wonder? Just some liquid accounts?
                Read the article.

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                • #9
                  I'm glad about this decision. I always thought it was unfair that a country could invite foreign investment and then just expropriate it--

                  While Venezuela has that right, I guess as a nation state-- I thought that every other nation on earth should pass a "Foreign Expropriation Compensation Act" So if Ven can nationalize assets belonging to say US or UK citizens, the US and UK would retaliate by seizing something belonging to Venezuela ( and those impacted could seek some compensation from the resulting fund)

                  Sauce for the goose and all that
                  You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                  • #10

                    It's hard to nationalise the assets of evil foreign corporations in the modern world.
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                    • #11
                      However, Russia does that well with it's domestic corporations. Oh, wait. It was about tax fraud .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JulianD
                        However, Russia does that well with it's domestic corporations. Oh, wait. It was about tax fraud .
                        Tax fraud and trying to sell the company to an evil foreign corporation
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                        • #13
                          And getting involved with politics didn't have anything to do with it.

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                            I'm glad about this decision. I always thought it was unfair that a country could invite foreign investment and then just expropriate it
                            Exactly my thought. I don't have a problem with a nation going socialist. Go ahead, try it out. Fine by me. But at least work out a mutually acceptable deal to buy out the foreign investors.

                            Anyway, I suspect there isn't much foreign capital going to Venezuela now. I hope for the best for the country, but fear it won't go well. Right now they're ok b/c of the price of oil. If that drops...

                            -Arrian
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Arrian

                              Exactly my thought. I don't have a problem with a nation going socialist. Go ahead, try it out. Fine by me. But at least work out a mutually acceptable deal to buy out the foreign investors.
                              You mean like when the victims of foreign corporations' unethical practices attempt to claim compensation from said corporations?

                              I don't think Chavez will care about this. The oil is far more valuable.
                              Only feebs vote.

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