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  • #91
    Originally posted by Agathon


    Pathetic lawyer's trick question. Is it a proper democracy with a free vote? Tick box A or B.
    No trick. Just curious. So no company should do business in or with China at the moment on your view-- or with about half of Africa . . .
    Ya the lack of any outside investment-- that would really help those people


    Originally posted by Agathon


    You can't expropriate what is already yours.
    Pathetic commie turn of phrase-- How plants, pipes compressors, dehys, etc etc are "already yours" when someone else built them at great cost boggles my mind
    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Flubber
      How plants, pipes compressors, dehys, etc etc are "already yours" when someone else built them at great cost boggles my mind

      QFT. Chavez should have used the American approach: Take the land using eminent domain, and pay the owners a fraction of what it's worth.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Flubber
        Pathetic commie turn of phrase-- How plants, pipes compressors, dehys, etc etc are "already yours" when someone else built them at great cost boggles my mind
        So Ford trucks belong to the people who built them?
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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        • #94
          Originally posted by Kidicious


          So Ford trucks belong to the people who built them?
          No -- They belong to the people or entity that paid to have them built until such time as such owners sell them to someone else.
          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Flubber


            No -- They belong to the people or entity that paid to have them built until such time as such owners sell them to someone else.
            I thought you might be attaching significance to the fact that things were built that were nationalized.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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            • #96
              Let's go this way with it.

              Do you think Exxon knew that their investment carried the risk of nationalization when they made it?
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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              • #97
                I know that living in Chicago carries the risk of being robbed/mugged/killed, but does that make the robbing/mugging/killing justified/allowable/okay?
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by snoopy369
                  I know that living in Chicago carries the risk of being robbed/mugged/killed, but does that make the robbing/mugging/killing justified/allowable/okay?
                  Venezuela's actions were legal.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                  • #99
                    Only in the sense that the Venezuelan government makes the law in Venezuela, so they can make anything they do legal...

                    They weren't legal by most countries' definition.
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                    • #100
                      Cue Godwin.

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                      • #101
                        Originally posted by snoopy369
                        Only in the sense that the Venezuelan government makes the law in Venezuela, so they can make anything they do legal...

                        They weren't legal by most countries' definition.
                        And the US can make any law they wish... Your point?
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                        • #102
                          Originally posted by Kidicious


                          And the US can make any law they wish... Your point?
                          I have 2.

                          1. The fact that a country can make ANY law they wish does not mean they should. Use your imagination of the wide variety of laws a sovereign country COULD make--( Oh and as a first law repeal all constitutional protections to do with any rights of your citizenry) Then go from there

                          2. Since the US can 'pass any law they wish", I think they should apply reciprocity to any any nation state that seizes stuff like Ven did. They in turn would seize say Citgo and aggrieved US corps could sue or apply for compensation from the proceeds. Why SHOULD't the US due to venezuela what Venezuela was doing to the US
                          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                          • #103
                            Originally posted by Kidicious


                            And the US can make any law they wish... Your point?
                            In my example, the things I listed were illegal by most standards. In yours, the seizing was illegal by most standards. Thus, equivalent...
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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by Kidicious
                              Let's go this way with it.

                              Do you think Exxon knew that their investment carried the risk of nationalization when they made it?
                              There are all kinds of risks-- Knowing they exist does not mean that it is right to bring them to fruition.

                              As to legality. A nation state could pass a law staing that IMMEDIATELY all foreign workers were illegal and were to be executed. Its a stupid law-- ludicrous in the extreme but it could be "legal"-- Would you support that as a risk people take when they work in a foreign country
                              You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                              • #105
                                Originally posted by Flubber

                                Pathetic commie turn of phrase-- How plants, pipes compressors, dehys, etc etc are "already yours" when someone else built them at great cost boggles my mind
                                But you're thinking rationally. Don't you know to be a good commie means you have to stop doing that?
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