Max - Ontario traditionally votes opposite federally and provincially. With Libs in Toronto we vote Con at Ottawa.
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I always thought it was the other way around with TO. I thought they went Lib at Ottawa.
I do like Harpers push on crime though. As for our own personal Vietnam, I don't know. Are we really going to make much of a difference. Chasing little tribal people around the mountains forever. I guess our military has to justify it's existence somehow. Might as well have live fire training exercises over than at some training ground out west.
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This is pretty much what I think of when I think of military s in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The scene in full metal jacket with the crazy door gunner." Any person that runs is a VC anyone that stands still is a well disciplined VC"
" Ain't war hell hahaha"
Yeah buddy it is and its always very profitable for somebody but not usually for the taxpayer.
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Originally posted by Wezil
A discussion with you regarding the faults of Conservatives is a fruitless exercise. You wear tinted glasses wrt this party.(\__/)
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Any thoughts on Afghanistan itself?
Election issue or not, I have a sickening feeling that the battle is gradually being lost, not won.
The Taliban seems to seep through the Pakistani border more and more and in both countries the situation appears to be deteriorating, not improving.
As far as an election goes, minority governments are not so bad. I actually wouldn't mind seeing this one serve out its term.
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Originally posted by Max Webster
I always thought it was the other way around with TO. I thought they went Lib at Ottawa.
I do like Harpers push on crime though.
As for our own personal Vietnam, I don't know. Are we really going to make much of a difference. Chasing little tribal people around the mountains forever. I guess our military has to justify it's existence somehow. Might as well have live fire training exercises over than at some training ground out west."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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Yes Wezil your right. I checked that out. Torys have ruled the day in TO with their love for premier Davis.
Well i like the gun crimes part of the bill.
I find it interesting though that Harper scraps the decriminalization bill of marijuana bill yet, i keep hearing reports from the Association of Canadian Police Chiefs who endorsed the legalization of marijuana.
So the Torys solution is to criminalize the casual user. And basically throw more money down the drain on the war on drugs.
As usual the Tory's will swell the prison population, much to joy of prison bureaucracy's as the torys will pump big money into creating bigger and bigger prisons. As usual they don't have the will to deal with the social issues.
Yeah i checked out that other canpol thread. It's hard to believe that they have a bleeding heart for the non taliban afghans. Must be natural resources in the area.
Gee we seemed to love the taliban when they were fighting the commies. So two faced.
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Why isn't our government giving us some info on why we should be in Afghanistan? Tell us what's going on. What good are we are doing there. And why there of all places, lots of nasty spots with nasty people in the world but why this particular spot. I can see helping to destroying obama's little training camps but after that why bother?Last edited by Max Webster; February 11, 2008, 00:07.
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Originally posted by Max Webster
Those other countries are probably laughing at us. Well your stupid enough to get in bed with the hillbilly superpower.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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OTTAWA - Prime Minister Stephen Harper could cross Sussex Drive to see the Governor General, ask her dissolve Parliament, and trigger a spring election if the Senate fails to pass a key crime bill by March 1, his office said Monday.
The government has already tabled a highly unusual confidence motion on the matter - but even if that passed it still might not be enough to avoid an election.
A spokeswoman explained that Harper could still seek the dissolution of Parliament even if the House of Commons adopted the motion tabled last week.
Although the Commons has no constitutional authority over the Senate, the motion essentially asks members of the elected chamber to demand that their counterparts in the Senate approve an omnibus crime bill by March 1.
Since the Commons has already passed the crime bill it is almost certain that MPs will support the motion, and that the Senate will pass the bill after studying it.
Spokeswoman Carolyn Stewart Olsen was asked whether Harper could still ask for an election if the Commons adopted the confidence motion, but the Liberal-dominated Senate failed to pass the bill by March 1.
"It is a confidence motion so that is an option," Olsen said.
The crime bill increases penalties for violent and gun crimes, dangerous offenders and raises the age of sexual consent to 16 from 14. MPs passed the legislation in the House of Commons just before a lengthy Christmas break that ended two weeks ago.
The opposition has called the government's behaviour hypocritical.
If the crime bill was such an urgent priority they wondered why Harper prorogued Parliament last fall, effectively wiping previous crime bills off the books and delaying their re-introduction for weeks.
Asking the Governor General to dissolve Parliament would be ticklish for Harper. He introduced a bill on fixed election dates which set out October 2009 as the date of the next vote.
A leading constitutional expert says Harper's gambit is unprecedented - but not unconstitutional.
C.E.S. Franks says the prime minister is allowed to declare confidence matters as he sees fit, and he's also allowed to demand an election if he wants to.
But Franks said the current situation - Harper making the opposition ask senators to pass a crime bill, and then threaten to call an election even if they do - is without precedent in Canadian history.
The professor emeritus at Queen's University described it as a political act that shows little respect for the Senate's key function, which is to review legislation passed in the other chamber.
"It's all so silly-billy," Franks said of the prime minister's manoeuvring.
"He's gone out of his way to invent a vote of confidence. . .
"He's going out of his way to stick his neck out so it can get chopped off, so he can have another election and get his neck put back on again."
It's a good thing those Conservatives aren't itching for an election."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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