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  • #61
    Subjective measures don't really cut it for me


    Don't try sorting out Constitutional law then .
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    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #62
      My desire to keep my soul keeps me from applying to law school anyway.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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      • #63
        This isn't about law school. It's about law.
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #64
          Originally posted by SlowwHand
          This isn't about law school. It's about law.
          QFT
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #65
            The law is settled Sloww. If the Feds feel like intruding in a State matter they lack the ability to directly effect and in fact are prohibited from doing so by the US Constitution, they have the ability to squeeze the States in the pocketbook.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #66
              Originally posted by DinoDoc
              The law is settled Sloww. If the Feds feel like intruding in a State matter they lack the ability to directly effect and in fact are prohibited from doing so by the US Constitution, they have the ability to squeeze the States in the pocketbook.
              As I said, only to a point.

              If the feds slap on a 50% penalty, the Courts are going to strike it down in violation of Dole, no questions asked.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #67
                Anyone can bring anything to the courts. That doesn't mean they win. I could sue you for wearing a blue shirt too often. Will I win? Doubtful, but I can sue. Make a token effort.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Geronimo
                  are you kidding? that orwellian name has done more to excite opposition to the thing than anything actually contained in it. euphemistic names just bring out the skeptical cynic in everybody.
                  You're completely clueless if you think selling things based on a favorable name rather than apt description doesn't work.

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                  • #69
                    Yes it is definietly time for an US ID card.

                    I never understood the harsh resistance of so many US citizens towards ID cards.
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                    • #70
                      What's so bad about a national ID card? Most other countries have them. What human rights does it violate?
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by onodera
                        What's so bad about a national ID card? Most other countries have them. What human rights does it violate?
                        The right not to have a chip implanted in your brain.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand
                          WTF difference does it make if it's State or Federal?
                          Get a grip. Like the State won't identify you to the Feds?

                          Besides that, it won't affect Texas, once we leave.
                          Didn't you guys beg to join the Union so that the Mexicans wouldn't kick your ass?
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                          • #73
                            The right to go about your business as a free citizen. Halt! Your papers!

                            Incidently, why would the I.D. cards be tamperproof?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Sandman
                              The right to go about your business as a free citizen. Halt! Your papers!
                              And this would change things...how?

                              Incidently, why would the I.D. cards be tamperproof?
                              Not tamperproof, but much, much easier to detect when they have been tampered with, not unlike a passport.
                              "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Sandman
                                The right to go about your business as a free citizen. Halt! Your papers!
                                Yes, nobody ever asks for my identification now. Not when driving, or flying, or getting into bars. No sir.
                                Lime roots and treachery!
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