Systematic Disenfranchisment, Good or Bad?

[Whoha]

Re: Systematic Disenfranchisment, Good or Bad?

Originally posted by Zkribbler
I remember when I took a class in preparation of the LSAT. We were instructed that, to get a good score, we had to put ourselves in the mindset of someone who had been raised on a yaught and who never had to do a day's worth of work. Like most tests, it is culturally biased.

These tests are culturally biased, but that doesn't mean that they don't also measure better methods of thinking,understanding of processes and so on. It is certainly true that someone from 100 years ago from the US(to say nothing of someone from deep in Africa), would be at a disadvantage taking one of these tests against someone in the US today, but does that mean that the test itself is worthless?

Still I never said that LSAT was perfectly objective, merely that such a test could be constructed, and even then I never said that I wanted to do that. My test was will you go through the hassle and pain of voting.

[Wiglaf]

I think it's better to have smart voters than patient ones. Well it's kind of common sense actually

[Perfection]

NO CUZ SMARTIES MIGHT BE TOO IMPATIENT TO DO RESEARCHES N' STUFFS. SMART PEOPLE DUN' AUTOMATICALLY MAKE GOODER DECISIONS THEN PATIENT RESEARCHIN' DUM DUMS.

[Wiglaf]

Then have a knowledge test, duh.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
This thread needs Asher.

Wiglaf is carrying this thread.

:bow:

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
So you don't agree with Thomas Jefferson when he said:

That statement is factually inaccurate. We are most emphatically not all created equal.

The law, however, must proceed on this assumption in order to be self-consistent.

[Perfection]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Then have a knowledge test, duh.

KNOWLEDGE TESTS SUCK. YOU DUN' NEED TO BE KNOWLEDGABLE ON ALL ISSUES TO HAVE A VALID OPINION.

[Wiglaf]

You realize Obama is beating Clinton by about eightfold among black voters? They probably don't know much about his campaign, but they do know HE'S BLACK.

Do you realize the movie "Little man" was a financial success? It is about black people and a black midget making jokes about being black. YO DID THAT HOMEBOY LOOK LIKE DARK CHOCOLATE OR LIKE A MILKY WAY COLOR LOL? It is certifiably one of the worst movies ever produced in this country, yet it made money because black people identify with people like Martin Lawrence or whoever that actor is (he's got the same hair, anyway).

Knowledge tests to make sure you have some inkling as to who you're voting for

[snoopy369]

Ah, it's good to finally admit what was driving this thought, Wiglaf...

[Wiglaf]

Oh, eat me. It's the same with old white women. Oh, she's old like us and has the familiar name.

[Perfection]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
You realize Obama is beating Clinton by about eightfold among black voters? They probably don't know much about his campaign, but they do know HE'S BLACK.

Do you realize the movie "Little man" was a financial success? It is about black people and a black midget making jokes about being black. YO DID THAT HOMEBOY LOOK LIKE DARK CHOCOLATE OR LIKE A MILKY WAY COLOR LOL? It is certifiably one of the worst movies ever produced in this country, yet it made money because black people identify with people like Martin Lawrence or whoever that actor is (he's got the same hair, anyway).

Knowledge tests to make sure you have some inkling as to who you're voting for

ARE YOU SAYING CULTURAL IDENTITY CAN'T BE A VALID FACTOR IN VOTER DECISIONS? THAT'S STUPIDS.

[Perfection]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Oh, eat me. It's the same with old white women. Oh, she's old like us and has the familiar name.

AND BAPTIST BUTTHOLES WITH SUCKY HUCKY.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
You realize Obama is beating Clinton by about eightfold among black voters? They probably don't know much about his campaign, but they do know HE'S BLACK.

...or else they know Bill recently had this weird hissy-fit that turned them off the Clintons, or distrust one or another of Hillary's votes in the senate, something like that. No, on second thought I think I'll trust your insight into the motives of millions of people you never met. No doubt you've done extensive research using the "What's Happening!" reruns on TV Land.

Do you realize the movie "Little man" was a financial success? It is about black people and a black midget making jokes about being black. YO DID THAT HOMEBOY LOOK LIKE DARK CHOCOLATE OR LIKE A MILKY WAY COLOR LOL? It is certifiably one of the worst movies ever produced in this country, yet it made money because black people identify with people like Martin Lawrence or whoever that actor is (he's got the same hair, anyway).

Do you realize you're implying black people use the same criteria to determine what movie they blow $9.00 on and who the next leader of the free world will be?

Knowledge tests to make sure you have some inkling as to who you're voting for

"Little Man was (pick one):

A. A good movie
B. A bad movie
C. Deport them ******s!"

Yes, that should do the trick.

[Wiglaf]

Do you realize you're implying black people use the same criteria to determine what movie they blow $9.00 on and who the next leader of the free world will be?

Why else would Obama's support among blacks be 800% higher than Clinton's? It's because of his skin color, not politics. And I am not implying anything, I am stating fact.

"Little Man was (pick one):

A. A good movie
B. A bad movie
C. Deport them ******s!"

Yes, that should do the trick.

Well now I know what is on your mind. For the record the only people I have advocated deporting on this board are non-citizen Muslims in the US and AAHZ.

..or else they know Bill recently had this weird hissy-fit that turned them off the Clintons, or distrust one or another of Hillary's votes in the senate, something like that. No, on second thought I think I'll trust your insight into the motives of millions of people you never met. No doubt you've done extensive research using the "What's Happening!" reruns on TV Land.

If they just have a hissy fit, then a knowledge test would eliminate those people too. And the best part is, no trust of me is necessary -- just give people he basic knowledge test, and the dumb voters get rooted out right away

[Perfection]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Why else would Obama's support among blacks be 800% higher than Clinton's? It's because of his skin color, not politics. And I am not implying anything, I am stating fact.

SKIN COLOR IMPACTS POLITICS, SILLY. DON'T YOU THINK THAT SOMEONE WHO IDENTIFIES AS A MEMBER OF A CERTAIN MINORITY GROUP WILL HELP OUT THIER INTERESTS MORE?

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Well now I know what is on your mind. For the record the only people I have advocated deporting on this board are non-citizen Muslims

THAT'S NO GOOD, 'CUZ THEY'S PLENTY OF GOOD NON-CITIZEN MUSLIMS IN THE STATES.