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  • #16
    Re: Systematic Disenfranchisment, Good or Bad?

    Originally posted by Wiglaf
    After all we don't let felons vote, what was their great crime?
    We do.
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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    • #17
      There are a lot of Mensa '***** with higher IQs then me that sure as poop are a crapton dumber then me (except on LOTR trivia). Likewise there a crapload of people with lower IQs then me who far more competant at politics then me.

      Also, it would be hard to have an annoymous ballot with this system.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by LordShiva
        But smart people figure out that their vote is essentially worthless, and, since they usually work high-paying jobs, that teh time spent voting and not working is unnecessarily costly.
        Smart people should not be automatically allowed to vote. Smart people could be irresponsible. A chess player can be a ******.

        You should be able to face the responsibility of your action if you vote... that's why ¸maybe the only one who should be allowed should be people who own a land property.
        bleh

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        • #19
          OOPSIE!
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          • #20
            Furthermore, does anyone else find it a tad odd that the people voting in favor of same sex marriage are almost exclusively homosexual and in California? It seems to me that this is a clear case of voting for personal interests, rather than the good of society as a whole, which is of course the proper criterion for voting.
            How does same sex marriage harm society as a whole?
            B♭3

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            • #21
              So you don't agree with Thomas Jefferson when he said:

              We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL...

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              • #22
                What about teh women, then? Can we stop fat chicks from voting?
                THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Q Cubed

                  How does same sex marriage harm society as a whole?
                  It ruins kids' lives.

                  Originally posted by Zkribbler
                  So you don't agree with Thomas Jefferson when he said:
                  I mean he was a slave owner. So clearly he didn't mean black people, which invalidates the statement anyway.

                  What about teh women, then? Can we stop fat chicks from voting?
                  Why not

                  I think the property thing is interesting. Maybe, in order to vote you need to be intelligent and own land for 5 years in the country. This would prevent foreigners from busing in and skewing our election results, and would also ensure that voters care about the results of elections. Perhaps also there should be a lottery, such that 10% of voters randomly receive $1,000 check.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Wiglaf
                      What possible reason is there to get married if you're not looking for kids?
                      Clam down there sunshine.

                      And why do you NEED to get married to have kids?

                      Spec.
                      -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Wiglaf
                        It ruins kids' lives.
                        YEAH, THOSE SODOMITES WILL TURN THEIR KIDS INTO SEX CRAZED SERIAL MURDERING ANTISOCIALITES WHO WHY DESTROY SOCIETY!

                        Originally posted by Wiglaf
                        I think the property thing is interesting. Maybe, in order to vote you need to be intelligent and own land for 5 years in the country. This would prevent foreigners from busing in and skewing our election results
                        HELLO! YOU CAN'T JUST COME TO THE US AND VOTE. IT'S CALLED CITIZENSHIP REQUIREMENTS, MOTHATRUCKA!
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Wiglaf


                          It is too bad you think the guy serving you fries in between coke runs is as qualified to judge who should be president as you are.
                          EVERY bit !!! I assume neither thathe is dumb nor uninformed. He may be a masters student in poli sci at Harvard

                          But all thats irrelevant. The only "test" I could ever support for voting would be a knowledge test. Heck it could be a bunch of multiple choice questions with your answer sheet to form part of your ballot. All ballots with a certain number wrong get rejected. I don't see this as paractical or realistic but youcould make a test that was easily measurable that could assess whether people had a sweet clue about the candidates ( I don't know if you extend this to races for Senate on down to assistant dogcatcher

                          My bottom line is that I don't care how "smart" someone is. I think actually being informed as to the choices before you are the most important
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                          • #28
                            I mean he was a slave owner. So clearly he didn't mean black people, which invalidates the statement anyway.
                            It was illegal at the time in Virginia to free slaves. Why? Because which slaves would a slave owner want to free -- the old and the sick. Moreover, almost all the work at the time was on plantations, so there's weren't a lot of places hiring freeman. Free slaves would have to turn to crime to survive.

                            If you read Jefferson's passages on slavery that Congress deleted from the Declaration, you'll see what he thought of slavery.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Systematic Disenfranchisment, Good or Bad?

                              And wiglaf it was the second paragraph on that I find funniest


                              Originally posted by Wiglaf



                              I took a political theory class so what I just said is accurate and legitimate.



                              Originally posted by Wiglaf



                              Therefore, it seems that to the best of our ability, we ought to restrict fat people from voting on food laws, gay people from voting on marriage amendments, etc etc, so that we can root out those who would undermine the integrity of the voting process.



                              Maybe married people should not vote on marriage amendments since they have a vested interest and I think that food laws should not be voted upon by anyone that eats . The all have a veste d interest

                              Back to marriage laws-- Can the married woman that gets it on with another woman for mutual enjoyment with her husband vote or not? How about the philandering husband-- Can he vote if its been less than a week since his last elicit affair? After all you might need his vote to "protect the institution of marriage"


                              Keep on posting wiglaf-- you are making my day
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Wiglaf




                                I think the property thing is interesting. Maybe, in order to vote you need to be intelligent and own land for 5 years in the country. This would prevent foreigners from busing in and skewing our election results, and would also ensure that voters care about the results of elections. Perhaps also there should be a lottery, such that 10% of voters randomly receive $1,000 check.
                                So lets give MONEY to people with property.


                                Heck in old-style Chicago a 1 in 10 chance at $1000 might see some of the more prolific voters walk away with 50K or more
                                You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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