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  • #31
    Originally posted by Asher

    I'm only 24 and I'm managing half a dozen people...

    Then again, I'm not managing cadets or ensigns, I'm managing people with university degrees and people who are older than me at that.
    My first division (when I was 21) was twelve men. IIRC over half were older than me, and at least three of them had bachelor degrees.

    Really though, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Igloodude


      My first division (when I was 21) was twelve men. IIRC over half were older than me, and at least three of them had bachelor degrees.

      Really though, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
      It should be obvious.

      Patty said:
      That doesn't happen in the civilian world.


      I provided a counterexample.

      And managing soldiers/sailors is quite a different thing than managing free-thinking civilians.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #33
        Re: Phear the mighty German Navy!

        Originally posted by Sir Ralph
        We don't need no "Bismarck" anymore! We ram you to the ground, mercilessly, and we are training it with our own boats!
        Sinking themselves is a good German naval tradition though, like in 1919 and 1939
        Blah

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Asher

          I'm only 24 and I'm managing half a dozen people...

          Then again, I'm not managing cadets or ensigns, I'm managing people with university degrees and people who are older than me at that.
          Oh boy, I want to work for Asher.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #35
            I don't believe all degrees are created equal. What was yours, English?
            One was History, the other Political Science. Makes sense for me, I want to be a history professor eventually. I start my MBA next fall.

            I am sure you consider all three of those useless, but fortunately the people who pay salaries don't.

            Well, it depends what you want. Virtually any person with a degree can be some kind of supervisor at a McDonalds, grocery store, etc...
            True, but not one supervising the crew of one of the most advanced machines in the world.
            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kidicious
              I want to work
              You're a bad commie
              THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
              AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
              AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
              DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Asher

                It should be obvious.

                Patty said:
                That doesn't happen in the civilian world.


                I provided a counterexample.

                And managing soldiers/sailors is quite a different thing than managing free-thinking civilians.
                And you know this how?

                I have done both (in fact, at the MEPS I was managing enlisted and civilians at the same time), and in my experience there's more similarities than differences.

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                • #38
                  I provided a counterexample.
                  I never said universally.

                  In any case nearly everyone I know in the civilian world my age (26) is just now getting supervisory responsibility. Even the highly praised technical degrees were just slaves at a computer or lab station up until now.

                  Every JO, at age 21-22 on, has give or take a dozen personnel under their supervision (granted some have a chief, though I didn't). It is not something you see in the civilian world often at all.

                  And managing soldiers/sailors is quite a different thing than managing free-thinking civilians.
                  It is. Depending on your sailors it is far more taxing. I don't suppose you've picked up any of your charges up from the police station. Or managed their personal finances. Or stood by them in court for their reckless driving tickets. Or had them cry to you in your office about the wife leaving them. Maybe you do all that, but that is hardly normal in the civilian world.
                  "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by LordShiva


                    You're a bad commie
                    Doesn't everyone want to work for Asher?
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Patroklos
                      I never said universally.
                      You sure did, even if you didn't mean it.

                      In any case nearly everyone I know in the civilian world my age (26) is just now getting supervisory responsibility. Even the highly praised technical degrees were just slaves at a computer or lab station up until now.
                      As opposed to you, which is free from upper responsibility?

                      The slave comment is funny. I'm pretty autonomous, me and my team. Technically the only people above me are the Chiefs of the company. Then again I work for a ~200 man consultant shop.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Kidicious


                        Doesn't everyone want to work for Asher?
                        I'm afraid your technical skills are not up to par.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by LordShiva
                          You're a bad commie
                          Good commies do want to work. They just want to own the means of production while they're doing it.

                          Anyway, Kid isn't a real commie, radical leftist would be a better description IMO.

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                          • #43
                            I've got a theory on commie ownership... If you can't sell it, you don't own it.
                            Long time member @ Apolyton
                            Civilization player since the dawn of time

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                            • #44
                              On the managing people thing, I'd argue that there's a lot to be said for achieving professional goals without having to manage people.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Lancer
                                I've got a theory on commie ownership... If you can't sell it, you don't own it.
                                Do you own your trouser-snake?

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