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    Hundreds of lies led to war, study says

    2 journalism groups find U.S. made 935 false statements
    Douglass K. Daniel, Associated Press

    Wednesday, January 23, 2008


    A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

    The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."

    The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.

    White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration's position that the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat.

    "The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of intelligence agencies around the world," Stanzel said.

    The Center for Public Integrity, a research group that focuses on ethics in government and public policy, designed the new Web site to allow simple searches for specific phrases, such as "mushroom cloud" or "yellowcake uranium," in transcripts and documents totaling some 380,000 words, including remarks by President Bush and most of his top advisers in the two years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them, or had links to al Qaeda, or both.

    "It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al Qaeda," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."

    Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the administration during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan.

    Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al Qaeda, the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al Qaeda.

    The center said the study was based on a database created with public statements over the two years beginning on Sept. 11, 2001, and information from more than 25 government reports, books, articles, speeches and interviews.

    "The cumulative effect of these false statements - amplified by thousands of news stories and broadcasts - was massive, with the media coverage creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the run-up to war," the study concluded.

    "Some journalists - indeed, even some entire news organizations - have since acknowledged that their coverage during those prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided additional, 'independent' validation of the Bush administration's false statements about Iraq," it said.

    There is no startling new information in the archive, because all the documents have been published previously. But the new computer tool is remarkable for its scope and its replay of the crescendo of statements that led to the war. Muckrakers may find browsing the site reminiscent of what Richard Nixon used to dismissively call "wallowing in Watergate."
    This is just the documented lies. Not that anyone's suprised.
    I'm consitently stupid- Japher
    I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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    Lies!
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    • #3
      Surely there will be someone to say that they were honest mistakes, made with best intentions in mind .

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      • #4
        The biggest lie of all? Iraq doesn't even exist. The entire war has been acted out and filmed in Utah.

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        • #5
          Surely there will be someone to say that they were honest mistakes, made with best intentions in mind
          I always wondered about that argument, since it basically says instead of being liars they're just incompetent, which is clearly what you want at the top of a country....
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          • #6
            Originally posted by JulianD
            Surely there will be someone to say that they were honest mistakes, made with best intentions in mind .
            White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration's position that the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat.

            "The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of intelligence agencies around the world," Stanzel said.


            Sadly, this has already happened.
            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
            I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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            • #7
              I'm not really sure that the Iraq has WMD memo was a lie perpetuated by the Bush admin at least given the fact it preceded thier time in office. You can hang it on the incompetents at the CIA though probably the Church Committee and the limits it placed on the use of human intelligence as well.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #8
                well, the rest of the world was pretty sure...
                "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                • #9
                  Not that anyone's suprised.
                  No, not very surprising at all. Those damned libruls are at it again. Attacking our President, The Troops, Mom, Apple Pie and, of course, our Lord Jesus Christ.

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #10
                    The fact remains, Hussein had to go. After he went, we needed to go, also.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BeBro


                      I always wondered about that argument, since it basically says instead of being liars they're just incompetent, which is clearly what you want at the top of a country....
                      Unfortunately, continuing a trend set by Nixon, the Republican incumbent is both a liar and an incompetent. Oh, and had chemical dependency problems too.
                      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                      • #12
                        Any other manager besides Clinton would have been fired for boinking the hired help.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand
                          Any other manager besides Clinton would have been fired for boinking the hired help.
                          Eisenhower wasn't.

                          Nor L.B.J. , nor Kennedy.


                          Face it- who'd have screwed Nixon, except Agnew ?

                          As for Reagan The Wonder Shill, - erggh. No, doesn't bear thinking about.

                          Like being a peeping tom on a shut-ins ward...
                          Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                          ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                          • #14
                            I've never read a word about Eisenhower, LBJ or Nixon poking the help on the job. Kennedy was dead before it was really known.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #15
                              "The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of intelligence agencies around the world," Stanzel said.
                              That's right. I remember the French, Germans, Russians, Chinese, U.N., etcetera gnashing their teeth with their desire to go to war in Iraq along with us.

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