discrimination of people who wear odd clothes

[DinoDoc]

I support the right of anyone not to serve others in fetish D/S gear. Save the dog collars and leashes for private time.

[Cort Haus]

Good comments, Siro.

[Sirotnikov]

why thanks

i always appreciate your opinion

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
It's bad enough public transportation attracts winos, hobos , and other assorted social dregs.

Mercifully, I have never encountered a Conservative politician on a bus. I imagine all the social dregs leaving if Rumsfeld ever used public transport- there's dregs and then there's barrel-scraping.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Riesstiu IV


What about being black AND Jewish?

And lesbian.


Linda Bellos:

Wednesday February 15, 2006
The Guardian


Back in the days when women were angry and lesbians were really angry, perhaps the angriest woman of all was the lesbian feminist Linda Bellos. Throughout the 70s and 80s, when she went from organising protests to running Lambeth council, she seemed to wear a permanent scowl of indignation that threatened to explode, at the slightest provocation, into incandescent rage.
When it came to grievance, she appeared to have it all, being black, African, Jewish, working class, lesbian and Marxist. She was angry at economic injustice, racial discrimination, sexual inequality, the oppression of the male gaze, pornography, violence against women and much else besides. "Yes," she admits in Angry Wimmin - a documentary about revolutionary feminism being aired as part of the current BBC4 series Lefties - "we were bloody angry." Most of all, of course, she was angry with men.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1709863,00.html

[Q Classic]

So, she led a charmed life of bank/media controlling bling while being a star in "The L Word"?

[Elok]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Imagine if the situation was reversed
A goth bus driver who hates people who are well groomed and dressed. Or a goth bus driver who hates people who worship god so he does not pick up people who go to church.

This is ridiculous.

Indeed. He wouldn't earn enough to justify spending gas on the bus, and would probably soon be fired. Plus people other than news outlets pay attention to well-dressed people when they complain of ill-treatment. Finally, a lot of people (especially religious people) might think twice before riding a bus that's driven by a dude dressed like Marilyn Manson anyway. They'd wait for the next bus. That's just a poor personnel decision.

[Riesstiu IV]

Originally posted by molly bloom


Mercifully, I have never encountered a Conservative politician on a bus. I imagine all the social dregs leaving if Rumsfeld ever used public transport- there's dregs and then there's barrel-scraping.

How does Rumsfeld come into this?

[Sirotnikov]

Indeed. He wouldn't earn enough to justify spending gas on the bus, and would probably soon be fired.

uhm
there are more non-church-goers than you think.

Plus people other than news outlets pay attention to well-dressed people when they complain of ill-treatment

this is a very good point.

poorly dressed people should not be paid attention to. Be they goth, or black, or just really poor. You know, clothes are an integral part of one's personality and should affect his civil liberties

Finally, a lot of people (especially religious people) might think twice before riding a bus that's driven by a dude dressed like Marilyn Manson anyway. They'd wait for the next bus.

I imagine marylin manson types have qualms about getting on buses with christians too. But that's irrelevent.

For the sake of argument, imagine if it was the only bus available and you really had to hurry home. And then you'd try to get on with your wife, the driver would insult her and call her a dog, because to him, the whole concept of matrimony is like a leash on someone's neck, limiting his freedom.

is it nice?

should goth bus drivers be allowed to treat you this way, because they hate what you represent?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

poorly dressed people should not be paid attention to. Be they goth, or black, or just really poor. You know, clothes are an integral part of one's personality and should affect his civil liberties

"should not"? Arguable.

I can say that in the real world the clothes do make a difference. I wear a suit and tie some days (court) and ripped jeans on others (office) and the difference in treatment/respect I receive is astounding.

[C0ckney]

this is a very good point.

poorly dressed people should not be paid attention to. Be they goth, or black, or just really poor. You know, clothes are an integral part of one's personality and should affect his civil liberties

if a bar won't let me in dressed in my tracksuit bottoms, are my civil liberties being infringed? there are many situations where a business may expect its customers to wear appropriate attire, and refuse service if they do not.

[Wezil]

Cockney - The line is crossed when it involves a "public service" however. So long as the attire complies with applicable public decency standards they should be served.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by C0ckney
if a bar won't let me in dressed in my tracksuit bottoms, are my civil liberties being infringed? there are many situations where a business may expect its customers to wear appropriate attire, and refuse service if they do not.

Yes, you know the main reason I hate taking the bus is all the well groomed people in tuxedos ... damn dress codes

[Spec]

This has nothing to do with the clothes the're wearing, its all about the chain and collar.

If there was no chain and collar, they would be riding the bus right now.

Spec.

[Kidlicious]

You can ride the bus if you **** your pants but not if you wear a chain and collar.