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Science buff- Like Barack Obama? Better not like manned spaceflight then
And lastly that a species that advanced would still feel a need to expand something I find highly dubious.
Why? I would consider that one of the fundamental features of life, why should sentient beings be any different (we humans certainly aren't)?
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
Originally posted by Whoha
I think broadcast is going to be cheaper then narrow, there is also the fact that you don't necessarily know where your target will be when he gets your message. He could be moving under power, or the planet he is on will revolve a little bit around the sun.
Planet to planet communication in this fashion would be simple, since the math involved in figuring out where the planet is going to be at the time your signal reaches their star is incredibly simple, even the rotation of the planet is very easy to factor in.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
Why? I would consider that one of the fundamental features of life, why should sentient beings be any different (we humans certainly aren't)?
One possibility is that once most species discover the equivalent of recreational drugs they develop perfect ones or functional analogues to them (VR maybe?) that allow them to happily descend into a state of go nowhere do nothing bliss.
I thought of that, a entire civ hooked on perfect VR might refrain from expanding all over the dull "real" galaxy.
Depressing, since we humans with our lack of foresight and impulse driven behaivuor are certainly not going to be an exception.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
I would find a universe filled with little drug addict civs very deppresing, it would be better to postualte that we are alone in our galaxy or that we are the first to evolve.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
Originally posted by Heraclitus
Planet to planet communication in this fashion would be simple, since the math involved in figuring out where the planet is going to be at the time your signal reaches their star is incredibly simple, even the rotation of the planet is very easy to factor in.
well I mean even moreso for mars->earth communication. But still that adds to the cost of doing the narrow beam transmission that broadcast doesn't have.
well I mean even moreso for mars->earth communication. But still that adds to the cost of doing the narrow beam transmission that broadcast doesn't have.
no. It's not going to add to the costs at all once the technology to do so is old fashioned. Long term costs boils down to resources required and this wouldnt require more resources. In fact it would require less.
Originally posted by Geronimo
not by our current methods. Anyway if you nest enough dyson spheres the outermost is almost as cool as the interstellar media so even a dyson sphere could be tough to spot.
Okay, we're both reading the same wiki article, so further discussion is pointless.
Originally posted by Heraclitus
I would find a universe filled with little drug addict civs very deppresing, it would be better to postualte that we are alone in our galaxy or that we are the first to evolve.
I would find a universe in which a transcendent God automatically reincarnates everyone in an eternal paradise when they die even less depressing but I certainly don't have evidence to support that wishful thinking.
It is very difficult to explain why we would be the first to evolve in such an old galaxy.
Previous civs could have become extinct, plus don't forget that we have no idea how common it might be for sentinet species to create complex tehnical civilisations.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
Originally posted by Geronimo
no. It's not going to add to the costs at all once the technology to do so is old fashioned. Long term costs boils down to resources required and this wouldnt require more resources. In fact it would require less.
that doesn't change the fact that a broadcast unit is going to be cheaper and use fewer resources then a narrow beam transmitter with a computer dedicated to handling messaging. And again, ships moving under power that are far enough away can only get broadcast messages.
Originally posted by Heraclitus
Previous civs could have become extinct, plus don't forget that we have no idea how common it might be for sentinet species to create complex tehnical civilisations.
Previous civs all going extinct doesn't sound like much of an improvement over them all having turned on, tuned in, and dropped out.
as to your second point, sapience might be just as much of a bottleneck as civilization. I imagine all sapient species with a means of directly manipulating their environment will eventually civilize.
Of course if it turns out that cetaceans and other species with large brains and limited manual dexterity are sapient that would go a long way towards arguing that sapience is not much of a bottleneck.
Originally posted by Heraclitus
I would find a universe filled with little drug addict civs very deppresing, it would be better to postualte that we are alone in our galaxy or that we are the first to evolve.
Don't worry. As soon as such technology is widely available, those susceptible to it will stop to procreate and thus eliminate themselves from the gene pool.
The world will be inherited by the Amish and the like. If we ever become a space faring civilization it will be nothing like that commie propaganda Star Trek. The first humans to reach other worlds will be... missionaries.
that doesn't change the fact that a broadcast unit is going to be cheaper and use fewer resources then a narrow beam transmitter with a computer dedicated to handling messaging. And again, ships moving under power that are far enough away can only get broadcast messages.
yes it does. you don't seem to understand just how strong a diverging signal has to be to be picked up without an immense receiver over non trivial distances. The added resource cost of a microcomputer and a few nanoscale widgets in the transmitter will be laughably tiny in comparison to the energy saved by reducing divergence of the broadcast.
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