Scientists: Creationist President Would Doom U.S.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
We do tend to get a little exasperated when a large and powerful number of people seek to reject the same principles of reasoning that resulted in such controversial statements as "1 + 1 = 2".

And now I don't think you know what you are talking about.

JM

[Patroklos]

We do tend to get a little exasperated when a large and powerful number of people seek to reject the same principles of reasoning that resulted in such controversial statements as "1 + 1 = 2".

I am pretty sure the person who came up with that was a pagan. See how religion stiffles science.

[Elok]

I never knew the scientific method was necessary to discover basic arithmetic. Which cave wall in southern France did the scientists publish their results to?

[Patroklos]

Your point?

[Whaleboy]

And now I don't think you know what you are talking about.

It's rather like having people say that the Sun orbits the Earth. That would be fine for the comedy value if there weren't so many of them .

[Perfection]

Originally posted by SpencerH
I love these debates. The irony of secular evolutionists playing "chicken little" and wringing their hands over the possible teaching of an alternative argument (I wont call creationism a theory) is just wonderful.

Well, I get annoyed, because I think there are very legitimate reasons to teach evolution but not Creationism (at least in science class or as a scientific alternative for evolution).

The worst enemy to have in a debate is an idiot who's on your side.

[Qilue]

So after reading this thread, I did a little search to find the Catholic and Anglican Church's positions.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/21/archbishop_backs_evolution/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/13/pope_darwin_love_in/

[Elok]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Your point?

I was addressing Whaleboy and his "1+1= MC^2," not you. Sorry if there was a mix-up.

[Patroklos]

I figured that as soon as I posted it, but I see now

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Whaleboy




It's rather like having people say that the Sun orbits the Earth. That would be fine for the comedy value if there weren't so many of them .

If you don't know the difference between mathematics and the sciences, and the different assumptions that go into each... as well as the different methods... then yes, you don't know what you are talking about.

JM

[Japher]

I don't feel that being a scientist and a believer are conflicting at all. I think those that can't see how this is possible only look for God in the Gaps and don't realize that He is everything, including all that knowledge and space between the Gaps. God created man to rule over our world and has given us the tools (our brains and ability to reason) to do so. The Gaps are only evidence of God, and appear as his challenge to us. We are to fill the Gaps, and when we do so there will be more, and we will learn to rule over more of our world.

[Arrian]

Creationist President would doom the US? Well, I guess we've been doomed for 7 years.

Alarmist, yeah. But I understand the concern.

-Arrian

[Kuciwalker]

WTF Whaleboy. JM is right, you don't know what you're talking about...

[Reiko]

Re: Scientists: Creationist President Would Doom U.S.

Originally posted by Gatekeeper


Here's a thought: Every time an intelligent design/creationist attempts to get laws enacted in order to infiltrate a science classroom with his or her religious mumbo-jumbo, a scientist should do the exact same thing — except Sunday school classes and worship services should be targeted.

After all, if it's OK for religious types to force their views into public science classrooms, surely it's OK for scientists to do the same in churches, right? Quid pro quo?

No because churches and sunday school are not public institutions funded by tax dollars, public schools are. Further more there is no law that compels people to attend church services or sunday classes where as children under a certain age have to attend public school unless their parents can afford private school or if it is legal in their area to home school.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Perfection
Well, I get annoyed, because I think there are very legitimate reasons to teach evolution but not Creationism (at least in science class or as a scientific alternative for evolution).

I dont believe in teaching intelligent design in a science class either. Whats next, the "science" of "An Incovenient Truth"? OTOH, I dont mind it's being mentioned as a possible alternative that the students could examine on thier own time (for example) or could compare to the theory of evolution.

The worst enemy to have in a debate is an idiot who's on your side.

Good to know.