Surge seen as failiure

[TCO]

Are you really being this trite or is this an act of being pissed off?

[Dauphin]

Why would I be pissed off?

[TCO]

Sometimes, you're very British.

[Dauphin]

Funny, I was brought up abroad. Mostly America.

[Berzerker]

Well there are plenty of people here who are saying that Iraq is a quagmire of ****.

It is

This is his rebuttal.

A rebuttal of what? That people here should frown at good news? Makes no sense...

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Berzerker
A rebuttal of what? That people here should frown at good news? Makes no sense...

I figured that was his point. People aren't making sense.

I know I'm not at the moment.

[TCO]

Oh...wait, maybe pot smoker is that dumb.

Berz: The sarcasm has nothing to do with celebration by anti-war side of bad (or good) things over there. The sarcasm has to do with the media only PARTRAYING the bad stuff. Now go back to your Cheech and Chonging.

[TCO]

Originally posted by Dauphin
Funny, I was brought up abroad. Mostly America.

Abroad. Very British. Overseas would be American.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Pardon me while I yawn.

Obviously more boots on the ground = safer Iraq. No serious person ever disputed that.

But more boots on the ground |= "the surge." As Zkrib point out, the surge was a strategy to reduce violence with a temporary increase in US troop strength; during that time, the Iraqi government and security forces were supposed to step up to the plate so that they could make the reduction in violence permanent. That hasn't happened.

The success of the surge -- and this is Bush's metric, not mine -- can only be measured next Spring, once we withdraw the extra 30,000 troops. If, at that point, violence remains at the same level as when our extra troops were there, then you can say the surge worked. But given the state of the Iraqi government and security forces right now, no one thinks that's going to happen.

[Dauphin]

Anywhere abroad is "overseas" for Australia, New Zealand and Britain. Not so for the US of A.

Messed up language.

[TCO]

Scotland belongs to England, right?

[Dauphin]

It's their *****.

[Dauphin]

Wales too.

[TCO]

I read a history of Wales. At the beginning, it asked "when was Wales". Caerphilly is magnificent though.

[TCO]

Canada still belongs to England, technically, no?

BTW, the sun never sets on your gf's no? Perth. Wow, would date her just to get to visit.