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**Lul Thyme** · October 29, 2007, 20:19

[SIZE=1] Even the Dark Lord Cheney managed to tough it out when asked about his lesbian daughter.

I don't understand what Cheney has to do with this.
If Cheney danced in a chicken suit when asked to do so by journalists, would that make Sarkozy a wuss for not doing it?

**germanos** · October 29, 2007, 20:20

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Which would be a funny thing to say, because this guy is supposed to be some sort of America groupie.

This appears to be the premise of the very same program making this faux pas. Apart from Sarkozy saying that he likes the USA and wants to have good relations with them (with the right to disagree!), I see no evidence of him wanting to be a groupie.

Do you take all **** at face value?

**Wezil** · October 29, 2007, 20:21

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesley_Stahl

Too bad. Her rep is taking a kicking now.

How much do you want to bet her updated wiki entry speaks of the French President leaving an interview b/c she started asking personal questions?

**DRoseDARs** · October 29, 2007, 20:22

Originally posted by germanos
Ehrrm... shouldn't that be the other way around?

Erm, duh? I'm not disagreeing with the idea that the US media should report news, not trash. Problem is, the US media reports trash and this guy should have known that.

Sarkozy is not doing the US media circus, he's giving a bloody interview!

So 60 Minutes is... a Czechoslovakian newscast?

Or are the two synonims nowadays?

We often wonder...

you can't be a real Scotsman, are you?

What would THAT have to do with anything? I'm USian by birth, but my family extends back several centuries (Clan Rose) through Kilravock Castle, Inverness, Scotland.

**BlackCat** · October 29, 2007, 20:24

Originally posted by DRoseDARs

That didn't even make any sense. Who cried? Who said "Screw you."? And who's this braindead journalist? Stahl has been a respected journalist for over 30 years, getting a major boost from Watergate.

Well, you do a lot of crying because the french president won't play by american "journalist" rules.

I think that Sarkozy leaving like he did is a pretty strong way of saying "screw you" - I assume that there is a more polite expression of this in langua politica.

Stahl might have a previous good reputation, but has also by this proven that retirement may be a good thing before it gets too embarrasing.

Edit: doing a test.

**DRoseDARs** · October 29, 2007, 20:24

Originally posted by Wezil

I can find no printed confirmation. What I heard was on a radio broadcast so my source may have been incorrect.

All it changes is whether she was forewarned to avoid the moron questions. She started asking them none-the-less.

Again, she's a respected journalist. But that doesn't mean her manager is... That's one of the problems with the US media, journalists are always under pressure by higher ups to ask questions that they think the US people want to hear ... which many do because they're morons.

**germanos** · October 29, 2007, 20:28

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
You can't possibly be that dense. No journalist is going to end an interview with an uncooperative or hostile subject unless it gets violent or either the interviewee (or aides) or the stage manager(?) ends it.

Dense? What are you? An amoebe?

Ending the interview was not an option for both parties. Sarkosy very politely told the interviewer she was threading into off-limit waters. And very rightfully so. His private life is of no business to anyone but him (and, in this case, his wife). He did not run away. But she (as so many so-called journalists) lost to ability to listen and was only aiming for soundbites for her program.

Well, she got them, and she's talk of the town.

**DRoseDARs** · October 29, 2007, 20:29

Originally posted by BlackCat
Well, you do a lot of crying because the french president won't play by american "journalist" rules.

Your post here is so asinine. He should have known full well that he was going to be asked personal questions by US media, and yet MY pointing this fact out is "crying."

I think that Sarkozy leaving like he did is a pretty strong way of saying "screw you" - I assume that there is a more polite expression of this in langua politica.

Actually, it was a pretty strong way of saying "I'm a poor wittle baby who can't handle uncomfortable questions like an adult."

Stahl might have a previous good reputation, but has also by this proven that retirement may be a good thing before it gets too embarrasing.

This won't do jacksh*t to her reputation.

**DinoDoc** · October 29, 2007, 20:31

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Your post here is so asinine. He should have known full well that he was going to be asked personal questions by US media, and yet MY pointing this fact out is "crying."

Why do you think he was calling his press secretary an idiot?

**Wezil** · October 29, 2007, 20:34

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
This won't do jacksh*t to her reputation.

1. You agree the question was moronic (claiming she had too ask b/c of someone else - so much for professional rep btw)

2. She asked the question.

3. It will be remembered she asked the question.

4. This won't hurt her rep?

**Riesstiu IV** · October 29, 2007, 20:37

Moer liek Lesley STAHLIN. Amirite?

**DRoseDARs** · October 29, 2007, 20:37

Originally posted by germanos
Ending the interview was not an option for both parties.

What, was al Qaeda holding guns to their heads?

Sarkosy very politely told the interviewer she was threading into off-limit waters.

Her exact last words were to him were, blah blah "No comment?" He replied back, blah blah "...and no comment, thank you." and ended the interview there. I've seen PLENTY of interviews where the interview continued quite amicably on to other subjects after the words "No comment" are uttered on a given subject. All he did here was show his own inability to handle the situation like an adult.

And very rightfully so. His private life is of no business to anyone but him (and, in this case, his wife). He did not run away.

No, he didn't. He smiled, began removing his mic, shuffled around a bit, got up, shook Stahl's hand, and left.

**germanos** · October 29, 2007, 20:39

Originally posted by DRoseDARs

Erm, duh? I'm not disagreeing with the idea that the US media should report news, not trash. Problem is, the US media reports trash and this guy should have known that.

For all we know this is why he called his press-secretary an 'imbicile'

So 60 Minutes is... a Czechoslovakian newscast?

So, there are different standards in journalism based on race or Nationality?

What would THAT have to do with anything? I'm USian by birth, but my family extends back several centuries (Clan Rose) through Kilravock Castle, Inverness, Scotland.

I was getting confused by a Scotsman defending the right of the US media to ask moronic and impertinent questions to a foreign head of state.
You being a US citizen places thing in a more comprehensible perspective. It's still silly though.

**DRoseDARs** · October 29, 2007, 20:39

Originally posted by Wezil

1. You agree the question was moronic (claiming she had too ask b/c of someone else - so much for professional rep btw)

2. She asked the question.

3. It will be remembered she asked the question.

4. This won't hurt her rep?

Not one bit. Maybe it should, maybe it should get her manager fired. Don't know, don't care.

**Wezil** · October 29, 2007, 20:41

Originally posted by DRoseDARs

Not one bit. Maybe it should, maybe it should get her manager fired. Don't know, don't care.

I'm sure wiki (and other sources) will be sure to mention her manager's assumed complicity in this.

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