Shocker: Letting kids experiment with drinking early, reduces binging

[Pekka]

Yes, most of the terrorists don't drink. They don't even have sex outside marriage. conclusion=let's get drunk and also laid before it's too late!

Individual choices.

The fact remains though that some people can't handle alcohol, they shouldn't drink.

Also, I definitely didn' tmean that people should give their kids alcohol as in here you go, have a sixpack . More like just a zip so they can see how bad it tastes.

For the record, there are lots of factors for the future, like how the parents behave. Lots of the values and methods are adopted by the kids, like for example I got to taste alcohol and I had a liberal upbringing, then again my parents didn't drink, I've never seen my parents drunk, I think my mom was once drunk and I saw her for a minute but not sure.

The point is, they didn't get drunk around the house or so that I could see. So I grew up where the normal kind of behavior is being sober and beer and wine is perfectly normal.

A lot of families where the parents get wasted are also the families where their kids adopt that same style of drinking in here, fathers are being abusive drunks, well it goes on with the next cycle as well.

It's definitely not the same as letting a kid taste it and letting them get drunk or used to it. The two don't match, the opposite would be my intuitive guess though.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Dauphin
I don't know about the binging part, but in my experience those who start drinking early tend to avoid ****ty beers and drink better stuff. The follow up to that is that ****ty beers are drunk for only one purpose, getting drunk.

We should teach teens/society as a whole to appreciate good beers that are to be savoured - that would solve a lot of the problem.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39303

[Dauphin]

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
The same book of laws that prohibit undrage drinking?
BAH! Worthless.
Some people don't believe in drinking any, ever.
Can you believe that? They view it as a crutch that's not needed. Outlandish.

I can believe that, but some of those same people (i.e. me) don't believe it is right to force their personal choices on others. Also, some of us who don't drink recognize the reality that others do drink and would prefer they learn to do so safely and in moderation instead of recklessly.

[SlowwHand]

I know, Ozzy. To you, there is no such thing as childhood.

[OzzyKP]

And I know, to you, there is no such thing as reasoned argument when it is so easy to just dismiss someone.

[Dauphin]

Babies should be given whiskey in their milk bottles.

[Pekka]

Clearly we're all going to get into a heated battle before establishing what kind of ages we are talking about and what "educating alcohol usage" means.

I could be on both sides of the argument, depending how these both are defined.

[DaShi]

Must resist. . .must resist. . .

[Blake]

Originally posted by Pekka
Clearly we're all going to get into a heated battle before establishing what kind of ages we are talking about and what "educating alcohol usage" means.

Well yes,

sensible proposition - common sense = nonsense

For example it'd be cruel and unusual to educate on the effects of binge drinking by force-feeding (um?) multiple beers to a 10 year old.
It'd be perverse and confusing to offer alcohol while preaching abstinence.
Suggesting the kid drink because he had a bad day.


Truly, I think the moral of the story is.
There's absolutely no harm in allowing minors to consume alcohol under sensible and responsible circumstances - meaning, total supervision, due reason (social occasion), moderation as is appropriate to age.

Which is not the same as allowing unlimited access to alcohol.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
And I know, to you, there is no such thing as reasoned argument when it is so easy to just dismiss someone.

I just don't think because a kid wants to is reason enough.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I just don't think because a kid wants to is reason enough.

It is reason enough to start planning for the day he'll no longer need / adhere to your approval.

Thing is, that just because you say no, does not magically make the kid lose interest. Either you teach him stuff, or he'll learn from bad example.

The younger one is when he's slowly taught to take responsibility, the better he's likely to turn out.

[SlowwHand]

I don't even know why I'm attempting a debate, again, with people who have no point of reference.
Come tell me all about it when you guys have your kids raised.

[OzzyKP]

It doesn't look like you are attempting to debate at all. Looks more like you're just sticking your fingers in your ears.

[DinoDoc]

How do you explain the culture of binging in a place like Europe where drinking is more accepted and the age at which it can legally be done is far lower Ozzy?