U.S. Snipers Accused of 'Baiting' Iraqis

[DaShi]

Iraq would be safer if everyone had guns.

[Wiglaf]

You win the award for most useless thread ever, yet again MarkG.

So a defense lawyer has a nice defense. Color me surprised.

[Kataphraktoi]

is it just me or has markg been spamming useless threads for a few days?

[Wiglaf]

He always does that.

[Zevico]

but iraq is as peacefull and safe as colorado or something (according to a US senator)

Damn, I am NEVER going to colorado.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
You win the award for most useless thread ever, yet again MarkG.

So a defense lawyer has a nice defense. Color me surprised.

so killing innocent people based on an action that only an idiot would characterize as evidence is pretty normal for you.

[East Street Trader]

I wouldn't be surprised if the army has not been given some quota target to fulfil of terrorists killed.

[MarkG]

do they get bonuses with that quota?

[Patroklos]

Snipers kill from hundreds of yards away in concealed positions, are they saying they break cover and walk a few football fields through hostile territory to plant evidence?

And there is nothing wrong with luring your enemy into the open, depending on how you do it (I am sure they are not using teddy bears like some of our communist friends). What war and what army in history hasn't done this?

[Shrapnel12]

Again, there is nothing proving this true, just allegations. But I agree, that if it turns out to be true, it is a sad thing.

[SlowwHand]

Oh bull****.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by MarkG
so killing innocent people based on an action that only an idiot would characterize as evidence is pretty normal for you.

Yes, sneaking up to a bunch of explosives, examining them and then trying to sneak away with them is not evidence of intent to use them at all...

Normal people do that all the time.

Just yesterday I saw a huge RPG laying around, so I looked at it, and took it to myself. Perfectly normal thing to do.

[Sirotnikov]

The Post said that although it doesn't appear that the three alleged shootings were specifically part of the classified program, defense attorneys argue that the program may have encouraged them by blurring the legal lines in a complex war zone.

This is they key sentence in the entire article.

What I think is that 3 soldiers killed civilians and then planted weapons in their hands to justify it.

When caught, they began trying to distract the public by saying that is what they were supposed to do.

Baiting is very different from planting evidence.
Baiting requires the other side to actively make a choise to do something justifying the reaction (arrest / interrogation / killing).


I do think that what is currently described is a bad tactics, because

a) there's always a small chance that the person picking up the bait is really innocent and stupid

b) much better to capture the dude and extract intelligence


It has been published that Israel has been supplying the palestinians booby trapped weapons, which is sort of like baiting, only smarter.

[Imran Siddiqui]

there's always a small chance that the person picking up the bait is really innocent and stupid

That to me is what makes this horrible. There are always dumb, curious people, who'll see something and look down and examine it. I'm not sure shooting that person without more is something that should be done.

[SlowwHand]

If they're that damn dumb, then wave adios to them.
Here we are in war-torn Iraq. What might this be?