England destroyed by tornadoes

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Ludd must have creamed his misanthropic pants at the New Orleans disaster.

The real kicker is that they're rebuilding it.

[Kuciwalker]

Sadly, he has a point there.

[Wiglaf]

Seems silly to not rebuild it, since this is the only hurricane that affected the city so much, and only did so because of inept levee construction. Also, millions live there, but whatever.

[Kuciwalker]

I'd rather just give the whole city a Darwin Award

[Wiglaf]

I would like to accuse you of being racist at this point because many people living in New Orleans are black.

[Kuciwalker]

Pekka?

[Lorizael]

That's right. They're so poor and so black.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Seems silly to not rebuild it, since this is the only hurricane that affected the city so much, and only did so because of inept levee construction. Also, millions live there, but whatever.

Build it fast then.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070923/rising_water_070923/20070923

Rising sea likely to flood U.S. historic sites
Updated Sun. Sep. 23 2007 7:51 AM ET

The Associated Press

Ultimately, rising seas will likely swamp the first American settlement in Jamestown, Va., as well as the Florida launch pad that sent the first American into orbit, many climate scientists are predicting.

In about a century, some of the places that make America what it is may be slowly erased.

Global warming -- through a combination of melting glaciers, disappearing ice sheets and warmer waters expanding -- is expected to cause oceans to rise by one meter, or about 39 inches. It will happen regardless of any future actions to curb greenhouse gases, several leading scientists say. And it will reshape the nation.

Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.

Storm surges worsened by sea level rise will flood the waterfront getaways of rich politicians -- the Bushes' Kennebunkport and John Edwards' place on the Outer Banks. And gone will be many of the beaches in Texas and Florida favored by budget-conscious students on Spring Break.

That's the troubling outlook projected by coastal maps reviewed by The Associated Press. The maps, created by scientists at the University of Arizona, are based on data from the U.S. Geological Survey.

Few of the more than two dozen climate experts interviewed disagree with the one-meter projection. Some believe it could happen in 50 years, others say 100, and still others say 150.

Sea level rise is "the thing that I'm most concerned about as a scientist," says Benjamin Santer, a climate physicist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California.

"We're going to get a meter and there's nothing we can do about it," said University of Victoria climatologist Andrew Weaver, a lead author of the February report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in Paris. "It's going to happen no matter what -- the question is when."

Sea level rise "has consequences about where people live and what they care about," said Donald Boesch, a University of Maryland scientist who has studied the issue. "We're going to be into this big national debate about what we protect and at what cost."

This week, beginning with a meeting at the United Nations on Monday, world leaders will convene to talk about fighting global warming. At week's end, leaders will gather in Washington with President Bush.

Experts say that protecting America's coastlines would run well into the billions and not all spots could be saved.

And it's not just a rising ocean that is the problem. With it comes an even greater danger of storm surge, from hurricanes, winter storms and regular coastal storms, Boesch said. Sea level rise means higher and more frequent flooding from these extreme events, he said.

All told, one meter of sea level rise in just the lower 48 states would put about 25,000 square miles under water, according to Jonathan Overpeck, director of the Institute for the Study of Planet Earth at the University of Arizona. That's an area the size of West Virginia.

The amount of lost land is even greater when Hawaii and Alaska are included, Overpeck said.

The Environmental Protection Agency's calculation projects a land loss of about 22,000 square miles. The EPA, which studied only the Eastern and Gulf coasts, found that Louisiana, Florida, North Carolina, Texas and South Carolina would lose the most land. But even inland areas like Pennsylvania and the District of Columbia also have slivers of at-risk land, according to the EPA.

This past summer's flooding of subways in New York could become far more regular, even an everyday occurrence, with the projected sea rise, other scientists said. And New Orleans' Katrina experience and the daily loss of Louisiana wetlands -- which serve as a barrier that weakens hurricanes -- are previews of what's to come there.

Florida faces a serious public health risk from rising salt water tainting drinking water wells, said Joel Scheraga, the EPA's director of global change research. And the farm-rich San Joaquin Delta in California faces serious salt water flooding problems, other experts said.

"Sea level rise is going to have more general impact to the population and the infrastructure than almost anything else that I can think of," said S. Jeffress Williams, a U.S. Geological Survey coastal geologist in Woods Hole, Mass.

Even John Christy at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, a scientist often quoted by global warming skeptics, said he figures the seas will rise at least 16 inches by the end of the century. But he tells people to prepare for a rise of about three feet just in case.

Williams says it's "not unreasonable at all" to expect that much in 100 years. "We've had a third of a meter in the last century."

The change will be a gradual process, one that is so slow it will be easy to ignore for a while.

"It's like sticking your finger in a pot of water on a burner and you turn the heat on, Williams said. "You kind of get used to it."

[Winston]

England destroyed by tornadoes

Cheer up now, it could've been much worse. Just think if it was destroyed by tomatoes.

[SlowwHand]

SALSA!

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
SALSA!

These are English people. They know nothing of salsa. They'd make little triangle sandwiches with the tomatoes.

[Aeson]

Make it tomacco instead.

[Theben]

A couple o' twista in the wind and the English panic? Wimps. Try living in tornado alley.

[SlowwHand]

Look at his avatar. He constantly spins out of habit.

[Blake]

Bugger. That's just too bad.

Is Scotland okay?