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That's all that I'm saying is that there is no such thing as a perfectly non-sexist male or the perfect democratic family.
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You pointed out one side and the middle, but you left something out???
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Were you implying that she is a man-hater for saying that? You said that she is condescending.Originally posted by Arrian
Point of clarification: I am not arguing against Feminism, nor have I ever done so that I can recall on Apolyton.
I have stated that I favor the continued movement to equality - which of course means that I agree that we as a society aren't there yet.
We got to discussing a particular radical feminist's statements (select quotes that you provided). If I disagree with her, that doesn't mean I'm anti-feminism.
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As I've said, I believe what she said, and I'm a male. So you can't say that saying that makes you condescending.
And do you call me a self-hater?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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You're still speaking in absolutes. Your claim is that all men - all 3,000,000,000 of them - are sexist to some degree.Originally posted by Kidicious
I don't understand you point. That's all that I'm saying is that there is no such thing as a perfectly non-sexist male or the perfect democratic family.
What others here claim, I bet, is that in those three billion, there might just be some who aren't sexist.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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Originally posted by Lorizael
You're still speaking in absolutes. Your claim is that all men - all 3,000,000,000 of them - are sexist to some degree.
What others here claim, I bet, is that in those three billion, there might just be some who aren't sexist.
Anything that you say can be consider absolute by that standard. Saying that someone is 100% non-sexists isn't absolute and obviously wrong.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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(ahem) Let me say again, using absolutes of any kind (none, all, always or never) will lead you into a mine field.
You're probably making a mistake.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
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"Man hating" is overstatement. IIRC, I said her quote "could be considered man hating." I don't think it was hatred, but it certainly was condescending.As I've said, I believe what she said, and I'm a male. So you can't say that saying that makes you condescending.
I don't think you're self-hating. I just think you make too many assumptions about others and have a tendency to over-generalize.
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Will it always lead you into a minefield?Originally posted by SlowwHand
(ahem) Let me say again, using absolutes of any kind (none, all, always or never) will lead you into a mine field.
You're probably making a mistake.
Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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You agreed with a quotation that claimed that all men were so sexist as to be inhuman. Do you think all three billion of them are sexist to that degree?Originally posted by Kidicious
Anything that you say can be consider absolute by that standard. Saying that someone is 100% non-sexists isn't absolute and obviously wrong.
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"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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Only a true sexist could ask that
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Why is she condescending and I am not? Because she is female?Originally posted by Arrian
I don't think it was hatred, but it certainly was condescending.
You say you are feminist, and that is something, but you don't think like one much.
See it's your judgements of things that I wonder about.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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wtf are you talking about? What quotation?Originally posted by Lorizael
You agreed with a quotation that claimed that all men were so sexist as to be inhuman.
No. That's my whole point. Get off the black/white thing and pay attention to what people are saying.Do you think all three billion of them are sexist to that degree?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Democratic communism will never happen. Boom!Originally posted by SlowwHand
(ahem) Let me say again, using absolutes of any kind (none, all, always or never) will lead you into a mine field.
You're probably making a mistake.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Nevermind. Your bias is such that your interpretation of that quotation does not allow for useful discussion of it.Originally posted by Kidicious
wtf are you talking about? What quotation?
Instead: Define sexism.
This statement is useless without support.No. That's my whole point. Get off the black/white thing and pay attention to what people are saying.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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My interpretation? What about yours? Something better about your interpretation?Originally posted by Lorizael
Nevermind. Your bias is such that your interpretation of that quotation does not allow for useful discussion of it.
Instead: Define sexism.
I never said that I thought men were inhuman.
This statement is useless without support.
You are pushing me to my limits!I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Shhh. Stop it stop it stop it. Pretend I have no opinions of you whatsoever. Pretend I know nothing. Pretend I'm Socrates.
Now please, if you will, give me a definition of sexism.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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