Iran leader denied WTC wreath request

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by SlowwHand

Try it if Bush is standing next to yo saying blatant lies, of which anyone with sense knows is a lie.

So pretty much non-stop then ?


Except of course when he remembers to get his name right.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by molly bloom


Since when did you get all bureaucratic-minded ?


This is simple etiquette and hospitality we're talking about, not the arcane rules of an exclusive gentlemen's club.

Agathon compared that to calling others names here on this site, which is against the rules here.

If someone wants to break the rules of etiquette fine. He will be judged by others. If you will notice he recieved much applause.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Oh, now you compare Bush to him.

Oh don't be dense.

Find where I've made a comparison between Bush and Ahmedinejad.

I'm asking how you would like your head of state to be treated in a similar situation, not comparing their political track records or standards of morality.

Have you been replaced by a pod person ?

And you choose to keep them seperate issues to suit your purposes.

No, hospitality and how YOU treat an invited guest is separate from your guest's behaviour.

The obligation is on the host, if the person has been invited.

Don't forget to put this event in your little bag of experience.

Sad to say I was too busy doing the dishes to attend.

But how kind of you to remind me to treasure the memory of what was no doubt a scintillating evening.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Agathon compared that to calling others names here on this site, which is against the rules here.

You'll find it was l.o.t.m. who made the inaccurate analogy.

In any case, the real analogy would be our making posts here and the Mods/Hosts being rude to us.

If you will notice he recieved much applause.

So do Ann Coulter and ignorant shock jocks. It hardly makes their behaviour acceptable.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by molly bloom


Oh don't be dense.

Find where I've made a comparison between Bush and Ahmedinejad.

I'm asking how you would like your head of state to be treated in a similar situation, not comparing their political track records or standards of morality.

I could care less to tell you the truth.

Have you been replaced by a pod person ?

Of course. I thought everyone has.

No, hospitality and how YOU treat an invited guest is separate from your guest's behaviour.

So you don't believe that Bollingers morals compare to Ahmedinejad's then right. Bollinger still looks like a saint compared to him.

In any case, the real analogy would be our making posts here and the Mods/Hosts being rude to us.

Well that doesn't compare since none of us has ever executed people and then pretended not to know their identity.

So do Ann Coulter and ignorant shock jocks. It hardly makes their behaviour acceptable.

To a lot of people it does. Especially younger people in this country. That type of behaviour is acceptable. In fact, this guy actually said something worthy. All the more reason for applaud.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by molly bloom

So do Ann Coulter and ignorant shock jocks. It hardly makes their behaviour acceptable.

Borat got a good response at the rodeo too.

[SlowwHand]

Question:

Are Muslims permitted to lie?

Answer:

Muslims should not lie to each other, but lying to non-believers is permitted under certain circumstances in the forms called taqiyya and kitman. Taqiyya is saying something that isn't true and kitman is lying by omission. One of those certain circumstances is to gain the trust of non-believers in order to defeat them.



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Below are some statements made by Ahmadinejad. Test your ability to perceive reality. If you can't detect the deceit, you are probably a liberal.



In his appearance at Columbia University last Monday Iranian President Ahmadinejad questioned the official version of the Sept. 11 attacks.
Ahmadinejad also defended the right to cast doubt on the Holocaust as a means to promote healthy discussion.
President Ahmadinejad also said that talk of American military strikes against Iran threatened world security.
Mr Ahmadinejad said Iran does not have homosexuals like in our country.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Monday that Iran will not launch an attack on Israel or any other country.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tehran’s foreign policy is based on humanitarian concerns and the pursuit of justice.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denied his country was building an atomic bomb.
Mahmoud asserted that his country was a bastion of personal and professional freedoms.
Now you decide, is Mahmoud a telling us the truth or acting as a good Muslim to try and defeat us

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Kidicious

I could care less to tell you the truth.

Then why bother replying to me ?

Of course, I've been replaced by a pod person.

Ah, tout comprendre, tout pardonner.

So you don't believe that Bollingers morals compare to Ahmedinejad's then right.

I have no IDEA what Bollinger's morality is like. It wasn't in question, nor was it the point.

Bollinger still looks like a saint compared to him.

Irrelevant. Bollinger's likely beatification or sanctification for services to academe isn't the point, nor is it germane to the argument. Sheesh.

Well that doesn't compare since none of us has ever executed people and then pretended not to know their identity.

We're talking about the behaviour expected of a host towards an invited guest. It's an entirely accurate analogy.

To a lot of people it does.

Great- so bad manners are widespread, therefore they're acceptable ?


Do you also approve of spitting on the street and dropping trash in public ? You're confusing what is common with what is acceptable.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Then why bother replying to me ?

I try to answer questions asked of me when I'm engaged in a discussion.

Great- so bad manners are widespread, therefore they're acceptable ?

Yes, that is reasonable.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Kidicious

(....bad manners are widespread, therefore they're acceptable)

Yes, that is reasonable.

So racism, wifebeating and child abuse are also 'acceptable' ?

Unfettered capitalism, child labour and infringements of health and safety laws at work ?

Scab labour, industrial pollution and sex-trafficking ?


Hard to believe you used to be some kind of leftist...

I try to answer questions asked of me when I'm engaged in a discussion. ... I could care less to tell you the truth.

Not much point in having an honest discussion with you then, is there ?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by molly bloom
So racism, wifebeating and child abuse are also 'acceptable' ?

Unfettered capitalism, child labour and infringements of health and safety laws at work ?

Scab labour, industrial pollution and sex-trafficking ?


Hard to believe you used to be some kind of leftist...

I'm just speaking for myself. Some one else might feel a little different. You are comparing bad manners to child abuse now, are you not?

Not much point in having an honest discussion with you then, is there ?

I care that someone told this person how they feel. I don't care if anyone wants to tell Bush how they feel. They could call him a petty dictator. That doesn't offend me. In fact, I really didn't know that some people consider bad manners until now.

[SlowwHand]

All I know is, he's not invited to my place.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
All I know is, he's not invited to my place.

I know you aren't talking about me. You invited me the other day to show people that you love commies too.

[Arrian]

Nah, Sloww invited you over so he could get you on a boat to Cuba!



-Arrian

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Kidicious

You are comparing bad manners to child abuse now, are you not?

You don't get the use of this English language thing with regards comparisons and analogies, do you ?


YOU stated that because something was widespread, it was acceptable.

Many repellent, obnoxious and just downright bad things are widespread. Why should that make them 'acceptable' or indeed anything else acceptable for that matter ?

With that laisser faire attitude, there'd have been no Married Woman's Property Act, no laws passed regarding child labour and no reform of working conditions in factories and mills.

I care that someone told this person how they feel.

It was an invitation to speak in an academic setting, not Oprah or Jerry Springer. Geez Louise.

I don't care if anyone wants to tell Bush how they feel.

They can write letters to him or email the White House.

They could call him a petty dictator.

He isn't, so that'd be pretty stupid.

That doesn't offend me.

I'm glad you're getting in touch with your sensitive side, and feelin' the lurve for Bush, but that has nothing to do with how Bollinger is meant to behave in an academic setting, as a host.

Remember, this isn't about you and your feelings.

In fact, I really didn't know that some people consider bad manners until now.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean.