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  • Originally posted by DrSpike
    I like it when this thread gets bumped - it reminds me of how right I was.
    Hmmm...

    London Leads the Biggest U.K. House-Price Drop for Five Years

    By Svenja O'Donnell
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    Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- London led the biggest drop in U.K. home values for at least five years this month as higher mortgage costs and the prospect of further declines in prices kept away buyers, a report by Rightmove Plc showed.

    The average U.K. asking price fell 3.2 percent to 232,396 pounds ($473,437) from November, the largest decline since the survey of real-estate agents' listings began in 2002, Britain's most-used property Web site said today. London home costs dropped 6.8 percent, also the most recorded by Rightmove.

    ``The market is tough out there,'' Miles Shipside, the company's commercial director, said in an interview. ``We see a flat outlook for next year, with no price rises, as we work our way through this liquidity crisis.''
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • December is always a slow month though, and interest rates were just cut and the effects aren't in the data yet.

      In fact most of what we're seeing is the lagged impact of deliberate policy induced reductions in credit in May and July. There is also a spike in supply that wont have helped, associated with the ill-fated HIPS scheme (google if you want the sordid details).

      It's important to recognise the difference between what is usually referred to as a 'soft landing' where prices would fall slightly in real terms (or maybe even in nominal terms) and a crash where they fall sufficiently to bring about reinforcing repossessions etc.

      In the UK there aren't as many hotspots as in the US (at least until recently) - but steady or even slightly falling prices for a year wouldn't hurt.

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      • Originally posted by Japher
        The whole market has been hurting me as of late.


        "We didn't land on Plymouth Rock, Plymouth Rock landed on us"
        -Malcolm X
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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        • Originally posted by DanS
          As a net buyer for the next 30 years, you should be hoping for the market to crash and burn.


          Let's go Bears! Let's go Bears!


          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • Now we're starting to get some action.

            Dow down 2%
            S&P 500 down 2.5%
            NASDAQ down 3.8%
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • Oof. Merrill Lynch expected to do an additional $7 billion write down next week ($15 billion total). Damn, that's enormous.

              We're into correction territory now.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • Originally posted by DrSpike
                I like it when this thread gets bumped - it reminds me of how right I was.
                I don't- the title confuses the hell out of me and I end up clicking the thread and having the hell bored out of me by it as a result!

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                • Yes, Dan's strategy for generating wider interest on the economic issues of the day was certainly a success.

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                  • I made the mistake of looking at my 401(k). Bad move. Avert the eyes and wait.

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • The credit crunch hit me today. I got laid off from my company, which is a small commercial mortgage origination company. I was expecting it though, so it wasn't an awful shock.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • Sorry to hear that che. Best of luck on getting a new job.

                        Is the commercial market getting hit in your area similar to the residential market?
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • It's not that their loans were bad, it's just that the secondary market for mortgage based securities more or less has dried up. Doesn't matter if you can do a billion in loans if you can't find buyers.

                          Honestly, I'm surprised they kept me on as long as they have. I had two short projects the whole year and they weren't interested in any of the five projects I proposed. They should have cut me loose months ago. At least I got a six week severance and I'm getting my unused vacation. I've already been looking for work and I have an interview on Monday and a couple other things in the works, plus a good friend who's a freelancer who always has plenty of work. I think despite the looming recession I'm going to be okay. The only thing that really worries me is the loss of insurance.

                          And it gives me more free time to pursue a political project I have coming up. More on that later.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                            The credit crunch hit me today. I got laid off from my company, which is a small commercial mortgage origination company. I was expecting it though, so it wasn't an awful shock.
                            If you need any money, I hear Theben's loaded.
                            Last edited by Zkribbler; January 11, 2008, 22:56.

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                            • Yeah, that's it.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                                Honestly, I'm surprised they kept me on as long as they have. I had two short projects the whole year and they weren't interested in any of the five projects I proposed. They should have cut me loose months ago. At least I got a six week severance and I'm getting my unused vacation. I've already been looking for work and I have an interview on Monday and a couple other things in the works, plus a good friend who's a freelancer who always has plenty of work. I think despite the looming recession I'm going to be okay. The only thing that really worries me is the loss of insurance.
                                What's this?

                                Capitalists with a heart?

                                No wonder the market is failing! Too much fat for the weak!
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