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Well, there is a solution now to the single-provider thing: http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/11/i...ne-sim-unlock/
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He's already explained that it's just his theory about the activation numbers. Meaning that investors aren't even aware of it.Originally posted by Tingkai
A press release about activation numbers wouldn't change anything because what is affecting both stocks is concern about the knockon effects of the subprime crisis.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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If investors arent' aware of it, why did the stock drop like a stone with the first activation numbers?Originally posted by Kidicious
He's already explained that it's just his theory about the activation numbers. Meaning that investors aren't even aware of it."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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This subprime crisis sure is powerful. It even caused correlated stocks over a year ago.Originally posted by Tingkai
Actually, you have proven my point.
Before August, the two stocks were not in sync. Once the subprime crisis starts to hit the stocks start moving together.
So the correlation in Aug and Sept demonstrates the effect of the subprime crisis.
A press release about activation numbers wouldn't change anything because what is affecting both stocks is concern about the knockon effects of the subprime crisis.
Attached Files"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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I think its fair to say the market was abundantly aware of the initial activitation number, and thats well documented.
Its a tad less clear if the market believes what Asher asserts about continued low activation."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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It will certainly be ALWAYS less than Apple's sales numbers. Do we all agree on that?Originally posted by lord of the mark
I think its fair to say the market was abundantly aware of the initial activitation number, and thats well documented.
Its a tad less clear if the market believes what Asher asserts about continued low activation."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
I think its fair to say the market was abundantly aware of the initial activitation number, and thats well documented.
Its a tad less clear if the market believes what Asher asserts about continued low activation.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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I look at this thread and wonder how the hell it reached so many pages, then I realise most of it is just kidicious and agathon nitpicking and arguing semantics with CONJECTURE from asher and I just laugh.
As far as I can see it boils down to this:
1. apple sells lots and lots of iphones, expecting not unsurprisingly that the faithful will do anything for the $600 gizmo
2. apple slashes the price by $200 dollars, an odd move considering they met their projections
3. asher suggests that maybe this is a sign sales aren't quite as hot as stated, and also that apples sales figures only mean how many they've sold on to retailers (at-t only?) and that doesnt mean they're all in customers hands. This seems a fair GUESS to me given the circumstances
4. counter proposal - that apple slashed the price because much of the same functionality is in the new ipod touch, a possibly fair comment but also short sighted - people WILL pay a premium to have 1 device in their pockets instead of two. How is a $400 ipod an equal competitor to a $400 dollar iphone with the same capabilities plus being a phone?
In short, this thread sucks.Last edited by thesilentone; September 12, 2007, 15:19.Comment
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I don't see any reason to be concerned about activation numbers at this point. You are trying to show that if the activation numbers were released that it would show that there is considerable inventory with ATT. As time passes there is less reason to believe that there is problematic inventory with ATT. So the activation numbers become less relavent as time passes.Originally posted by Asher
It will certainly be ALWAYS less than Apple's sales numbers. Do we all agree on that?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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fixedOriginally posted by thesilentone
In short, this thread sucks for Asher and myself because we are pwned a million times.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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I would just like to restate how little I care about ATT and Apple. But it's been fun.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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I find it highly entertaining, myself.Originally posted by thesilentone
In short, this thread sucks."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Dude, you do realize there is a lot of divergence in that graph, compared to this year (MSFT a flat climb, T more jagged).Originally posted by Asher
This subprime crisis sure is powerful. It even caused correlated stocks over a year ago.
Now look at post Aug this year. They're virtually in sync.
Thanks for proving my point.
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I think you have some kind of weird allegiance, actually. It's either that or you're trying very hard to make a name for yourself by "pwning" somebody for once. You picked the wrong person, your strategy of spouting nonsense til the other person leaves doesn't work for me. I don't quit.Originally posted by Kidicious
I would just like to restate how little I care about ATT and Apple. But it's been fun.
In any case, I took a 100% true statement (activation numbers < apple's sales numbers), and asked for global agreement. You refused to do so, which says all we need to know -- you're not actually debating here, you're being contrary to be contrary."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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You mean just like his theory about how AT&T stock has been hammered.Originally posted by Kidicious
He's already explained that it's just his theory about the activation numbers. Meaning that investors aren't even aware of it.Golfing since 67Comment
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