Al Bundy Lives on. . .as Gena Bukin

[Aeson]

Ted was.

[Provost Harrison]

OMG, I got it wrong

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Well, my Russian's really rusty. What's the polite way to address a woman -- the equivalent of ma'am -- in Russian?

Wait, is it "gospozha"? I seem to remember "gospodin" being "sir" and "gospozha" being teh female equivalent. So -- "N.Y.E.T., G.O.S.P.O.ZH.A"?

It should be "nyet, sudarynya". The word "gospozha" is used either together with a family name (e.g. "gospozha Bukina"), or (maybe with no name) to designate a third person. In the former case, "gospozha"="missis" or "miss". In the latter case, "gospozha"="lady". E.g. "My turn is right after this gospozha".

When a female is addressed without a name, it is "sudarynya" that should be used ("baryshnya" can also be used for a young woman). In other words, "sudarynya"="ma'am"; "baryshnya"= "miss (no name); and recall that "miss/missis +name"="gospozha +name".

Unfortunately, as onodera already mentioned, these forms of address have largely been shattered in the time of the Soviet Union (in favor of the ubiquitous "tovarisch"), resulting in a severe addressional crisis (so to say) in the present-day Russia. The problem is that the mentioned forms have acquired a tinge of irony imprinted upon them, or at least the Russian ear perceives them as having such. Yet, little by little, these forms are coming back in a serious way. For instance, "gospozha+name" has practically won it back on the official level.

On the other hand, the mentioned tinge of irony may actually be rather appropriate for a sitcom like "Married, with Children". So "nyet, sudarynya" would sound quite natural there. In fact, still in the time of the Soviet Union, my stepfather used to say "sudarynya" (in an ironic way) to my mother.

[Serb]

Originally posted by MarkG
that cast is awfull !!!!
nothing to do with the original one! even the dog

Not only the cast. Russian version is different. And the original was much better, of course (well, becuase it was about stupid Americans and this one is about stupid Russian who wanna look like stupid Yanks).

Al Bundy

[Serb]

Re: Al Bundy Lives on. . .as Gena Bukin

Originally posted by DaShi
Why are Russian names so gender confusing? Gena, a guy's name? Then there's Sasha. Dasha certainly seems more masculine than either of those.

Gena is the short name for Gennady. Sasha is the short name for Alexander. Dasha is the short name for Dariya.

And American names are Dick Ñheney

[Serb]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
I do believe this is the first bit of good news I've heard out of Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union.

More good news for you: Russians drink Coca-Cola too.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Zevico

Gena is short for Eugene.

I don't know what you're asking, but 'nyet zhenya' would not really be the right thing to say. You are in effect saying "No Woman", and not in the sense of being gruff and rude to the woman you're speaking to. It's as if you're saying "No [female gender]," and not in the French sense of tacking on a gender form to a word (which exists in Russian, but not for the word "No").
There, I hope to have sufficiently confused you by now. I've certainly confused myself in the process so this was worth doing in any case.

Gena is short for Gennady. The short name for Eugene (Evgenii in Russian) is Zhenya (Æåíÿ). It sounds different from zhena (wife).
'nyet zhenya' means "no, Eugene". So, he made a mistake in one letter. He should have said "nyet, zhena" (no, wife) instead.

[Seeker]

You mean 'Foreign Devil' not 'Invader Demon'.

[DaShi]

Re: Re: Al Bundy Lives on. . .as Gena Bukin

Originally posted by Serb


Gena is the short name for Gennady. Sasha is the short name for Alexander. Dasha is the short name for Dariya.

And American names are Dick Ñheney

Dick is a manly name. Sasha is Riff's exgirlfriend. Dariya? I'm not touching that one.

[onodera]

Originally posted by Seeker
You mean 'Foreign Devil' not 'Invader Demon'.

I meant 'demon', as in Spanky Ham the 'honorable pig demon'. Not 'stupid foreign devil'. Pseudo-Japanese, not pseudo-Chinese.

[Zevico]

Gena is short for Gennady. The short name for Eugene (Evgenii in Russian) is Zhenya (Æåí�). It sounds different from zhena (wife).
'nyet zhenya' means "no, Eugene". So, he made a mistake in one letter. He should have said "nyet, zhena" (no, wife) instead.

I submit to my betters.

[Provost Harrison]

Who is Dick Ñheney?

[MikeH]

The Vice President.