Maternal aggressor finds doughnuts more important than own child

[Stuie]

Originally posted by Lord Avalon
She was lucky she wasn't in Phoenix, where they're charging a COP for leaving his police dog too long in a hot car, where it died.

Cop charged in police dog's hot car death

I'm glad someone brought this up.

Nice to see that we, as a society, value dogs more than two-year-old children.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by GePap


The term used is negligent, not neglect.

neg·li·gent /ˈnɛglɪdʒənt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[neg-li-juhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. guilty of or characterized by neglect, as of duty: negligent officials.

The term is NEGLECT

One of the meanings of Negligent is "Characterized by careless ease or informality; casual" In this case it might be negligent homicide if the mother chose to leave the girl in the car, ignoring the dangers that posed, even if she had no intent for her to die.

No argument there, and she did not choose to leave the child in the care, so no neglect.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

That's just something that someone told Japher. You don't consider that truth do you?

Did you miss the news story I linked to?

It says she went back to the SUV 5 times. I don't see where it says that she left the child in a car a different time.

It's strange behavior to go to her car that many times.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Manslaughter would be the charge if she intentionally left the child in the car. She didn't do that.

Or, if she was deemed to have a duty of care which she failed to maintain.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Re: Maternal aggressor finds doughnuts more important than own child

Originally posted by DinoDoc
So what do you think? Would you go to trial if this case was ploped on your desk or do you think that this was just one of those things as the prosecutor suggests?

Try her and fry her.

No excuse.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Kidicious


This isn't neglect. Neglect is intentional, because you make a choice. She didn't make any choices that put anyone in danger. She probably was just too stressed out about work and maybe she didn't care enough about her kid. But that is not neglect. Neglect is choosing to put someone in danger.

The legal definition of neglect is more extensive. This falls under the definition of gross neglect.

You don't "forget" the location of your two year old kid, especially in a potentially hazardous location. Ever. Period.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Kidicious
No argument there, and she did not choose to leave the child in the care, so no neglect.

Someone held a gun to her head and forced her? She didn't choose to remove the child from the car, and left it and walked away.

[Lorizael]

I am not trying to transfer blame or anything, but does it seem a little odd that the daycare didn't try to contact the parents wondering where the kid was?

This is an honest question, btw, as I have almost no idea how daycares work.

Edit: Oh, it was a babysitter, wasn't it? Well, why didn't the babysitter call anybody?

[Japher]

So basically he said that he won't prosecute what he apprently saw as a crime solely because of possible public pressure?

yup

I am not trying to transfer blame or anything, but does it seem a little odd that the daycare didn't try to contact the parents wondering where the kid was?

This is an honest question, btw, as I have almost no idea how daycares work.

They brought that up on a radio show I listen to in the morning. They were defending her, and said the day care had become nonncomplacent about the child not showing up on time because the father would routinely not bring the child in until late afternoon.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Lorizael
I am not trying to transfer blame or anything, but does it seem a little odd that the daycare didn't try to contact the parents wondering where the kid was?

This is an honest question, btw, as I have almost no idea how daycares work.

Not really - often they assume the kid stayed home sick or something else (parent stayed home, kid stayed with relative, etc.) The assumption is that the parent has control/custody of the kid, so the kid is safe, and the parent merely didn't inform the day care that he or she wasn't bringing the kid in that day.

Usually there are sign-in sheets, and the bigger concern is who can sign the kid out, not whether they show up that day.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Japher
yup

I hope he looses his job next election.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Going back 5 times sounds like checking to see if the child is dead yet to me.

This was the first thought that occurred to me. I can't tell from the video if she moved the SUV from the shade to the sun. That'd be another strike against her.

Another explanation is that she kept remembering stuff that she needed from the SUV. But even if that is the case, one would think that somewhere in there, she'd have remember the kid.

I don't think a jury would buy her story.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Someone held a gun to her head and forced her? She didn't choose to remove the child from the car, and left it and walked away.

Of course she didn't choose to remover the child from the car. That was not possible because she forgot about the child. It was also not possible for her to choose not to remove the child, for the same reason.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


The legal definition of neglect is more extensive. This falls under the definition of gross neglect.

You don't "forget" the location of your two year old kid, especially in a potentially hazardous location. Ever. Period.

Bull****. Do you even have children? And neglect requires intent to either act or fail to act in a way that puts someone in danger. No matter how you look at it there has to be intent.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Dauphin


Or, if she was deemed to have a duty of care which she failed to maintain.

You can't be criminally charged for being a bad parent. You can have your kids taken away, but being a bad parent is not a criminal offense.