Maternal aggressor finds doughnuts more important than own child

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Are you asserting that she is mentally retarded?

No, I'm assuming that the prosector made the judgement that she was just a very stressed out forgetfull person.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Kidicious
You can not be charged for a crime if your act was unintentional.

Bull****. Happens all the time.

Hit and run cases - "I thought I just ran over some debris in the road or a dog or something. I didn't know it was a person and it was dark. I checked the damage to my car and it was driveable, so I just went home."

(IOW: "I was drunk off my ass and know I killed someone, but I wanted to get away to sober up and try to make up a bull**** story.")

"I put the pizza in the oven to cook, then I left my kid when I went to the grocery store. Then I ran into a friend and we stopped at a nearby bar to have a few drinks and I totally forgot about the oven and my kid. I didn't mean for the house to burn down and my kid to become an overdone Chicken McNugget. Poor me."

(IOW: "Hey, I'll collect on the insurance and lose the pain in the ass kid - freedom is mine, and I can make up a sob story to make myself out as the victim")



WTF do you think "involuntary manslaughter" and "negligent homicide" statutes are?

You can't charge a crime of intent (i.e. premeditated murder) without evidence of intent, but negligent or grossly negligent acts can be charged under the appropriate statutes. Otherwise, every other ******* claims they "forgot" or "didn't know" and has an excuse to walk?

This woman had a habit of leaving her kid in the car. A lot more convenient than dealing with the stroller and wrestling that little rug-rat out of the car seat. This time, she just did it for longer. Hours longer, in 100 degree heat. You're telling me the entire day she never thought once about that kid?

You're really stretching things beyond the realm of absurdity (and way beyond reality) to be an apologist for this woman. Something must strike a nerve. How many kids have you killed?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Kidicious


What makes you more qualified to answer that? It's reasonable to assume that the prosecuter made a proper decision. You don't have the information that he/she had.

The "information" the DA had is a sob story and public opinion full of excuse-makers and apologists.

I haven't "forgotten" my kids or left them in a hazardous situation, EVER, no matter how tired, distracted, sick, stressed or whatever I was, in over two decades of being a parent. While they're young enough to be totally dependant on you for their well-being and safety, you take care of your kids first, you second, everything else later. You NEVER leave your kids in a hazardous situation or "forget" where they are when they are dependant on your for their immediate security and safety. NEVER.

[Lorizael]

I have to agree with MtG's last point here. You don't have kids just because. If you want children, you have to be prepared to dedicate your entire life to them for decades, no matter what. No excuses.

[Winston]

Well, in fairness, maybe she forgot to take the pill..

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
You're really stretching things beyond the realm of absurdity (and way beyond reality) to be an apologist for this woman. Something must strike a nerve. How many kids have you killed?

I'm telling you that the prosecutor said that she did not believe that the women INTENDED to leave her child in the car. Assuming that she trully believed that she can not, in good conscience, file charges. If she did file charges the jury would be instructed to make a judgement as to whether she INTENDED to leave the child in the car. Whether or not she intended to leave the child in the car is the determining issue here.

When you hit someone with your car and run and have some stupid, "I forgot" excuse the prosecutor and and jury (if applicable) must make a judgement as to whether you are just lying or not. If they think you are telling the truth the can't prosecute you or find you guilty.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


The "information" the DA had is a sob story and public opinion full of excuse-makers and apologists.

I haven't "forgotten" my kids or left them in a hazardous situation, EVER, no matter how tired, distracted, sick, stressed or whatever I was, in over two decades of being a parent. While they're young enough to be totally dependant on you for their well-being and safety, you take care of your kids first, you second, everything else later. You NEVER leave your kids in a hazardous situation or "forget" where they are when they are dependant on your for their immediate security and safety. NEVER.

You're being very emotional and irrational. None of that matters. What matters is if she actually forgot the child, not whether or not she should have forgot the child.

[GePap]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


The "information" the DA had is a sob story and public opinion full of excuse-makers and apologists.

I haven't "forgotten" my kids or left them in a hazardous situation, EVER, no matter how tired, distracted, sick, stressed or whatever I was, in over two decades of being a parent. While they're young enough to be totally dependant on you for their well-being and safety, you take care of your kids first, you second, everything else later. You NEVER leave your kids in a hazardous situation or "forget" where they are when they are dependant on your for their immediate security and safety. NEVER.

Actually DD's own story mentioned exculpatory videos and recordings. I am just wondering why that small sentence keeps getting ignored by some.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
Actually DD's own story mentioned exculpatory videos and recordings. I am just wondering why that small sentence keeps getting ignored by some.

According to Japher, the DA didn't find the evidence all that exculpatory and only chose not to prosecute becuase he feared the wrath of stupid people.

[GePap]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
According to Japher, the DA didn't find the evidence all that exculpatory and only chose not to prosecute becuase he feared the wrath of stupid people.

All Japher said is that the DA went on the radio and stated he chose not to prosecute because he would get complaints. Japher said nothing about the quality of the evidence.

[Zkribbler]

Remember, the laws can differ from state to state.

"...a perverse disregard of a known risk."

is the language used by the prosecutor, which I assume is the test used by Ohio. If so, there was no "known risk" disregarded by the mother. She simply (she claims) forgot.

However, I don't believe her. All those trips back to her SUV and none of them reminded her that her child was still in the back seat?!

[DinoDoc]

If the evidence in her favor was so compelling, why would he even feel the need to even mention possible complaints as a reason not to prosecute?

[Shrapnel12]

Does anyone ever notice that when something is really important to you, that you tend to not forget? Or when it's really important to not mess up, to tend to not mess up? Not as much anyway?
For example, I'm so nervous of dropping a jar that I have never done so because I'm extra careful. I will set my car keys down, walk away for 2 seconds and forget where I put my car keys, yet I never forget a birthday of a family member who I really love. My point is that this woman just didn't care enough about her child and to me that resulted in a disregard for her child's safety. She forgot because she put it out of her mind because she didn't care enough. That's criminal IMHO.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Shrapnel12
Does anyone ever notice that when something is really important to you, that you tend to not forget? Or when it's really important to not mess up, to tend to not mess up? Not as much anyway?
For example, I'm so nervous of dropping a jar that I have never done so because I'm extra careful. I will set my car keys down, walk away for 2 seconds and forget where I put my car keys, yet I never forget a birthday of a family member who I really love. .

So youre saying the thousands of people who die in accidedents cause they forgot about a cigarette, or a that the brakes needed fixing, or whatever, are all really suicidal?

hey, whats with gas companies adding odors to home natural gas? I mean youre gonna remember that you left the gas on, before you light a match, right?

New motto "Accidents dont happen"

[DinoDoc]

How often do people have to be reminded not to leave their kids locked in superheated cages for hours on end?