RIght, but that's the problem. EDGE IS crap. It's 3G where it's at, and in this regard, US has a problem. I don't know about Canada, do you have enough networks?
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Originally posted by Pekka
RIght, but that's the problem. EDGE IS crap. It's 3G where it's at, and in this regard, US has a problem. I don't know about Canada, do you have enough networks?
Bell (CDMA, EV-DO rev A) - 3.5Mbit/sec
Telus (CDMA, EV-DO rev A) - 3.5Mbit/sec
Rogers (GSM, EDGE) - 0.4-0.7Mbit/sec"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by Asher
From what I've read, Europe has CDMA access....I bet if you compared the maps, you'll find them identical.
I know of zero countries with GSM but no CDMA access. I think the myth that GSM is more global is just because Europeans see it as the dominant implementation there. In Japan and Canada and the US, the picture looks much different.
My poor friends in Canada on the GSM networks have painfully slow connections. Sending pictures takes quite a while, mine are virtually instantaneous...Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
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Originally posted by Asher
Looks like a pretty global map to me. And I won't be going to those non-CDMA African nations any time soon.But yeah.
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Originally posted by Nikolai
As you can see, not completely the same coverage. Africa and Europe seem to be worse off. As for GSM being slow. Well, it's a very old technology, which is being phased out. GSM's speed is like an old modem's, 38.4 kbps. But with GPRS, an enhancement technology that has been standard for a few years now, the speed is 170 kbps maximum. Like a slow broadband line a few years ago in other words, but truth to be told it's seldom faster than 40 kbps I'm told. Another technology that is not wholly standard, but widespread, is EDGE, which gives a maximum speed of 236 kbps. But what is taking over the market now, is 3G of course. UMTS (3G) gives atm a speed of 384 kbps, and will give 2 mbps at a later date according to the authorities.
Maybe you guys are used to the painfully slow speed? I've no idea.
GSM is crap because it's slow. The fact that Namibia has GSM but no CDMA has no bearing on 99.9999999% of buyers."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by Nikolai
Half of Europe's out.But yeah.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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It's all about 3G. In fact, there's no need to argue about it, it's simple. And futhermore, it'll be about 4G, and that will be awesome.In da butt.
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The western and southern part? Impoverished? Unimportant?Now, I can agree with you that Norway is much more important, but still.
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Originally posted by Pekka
It's all about 3G. In fact, there's no need to argue about it, it's simple. And futhermore, it'll be about 4G, and that will be awesome.
3G has been here for quite some time in CDMA land...
How do you define 3G?
EV-DO rev B will be typically 14.7MBit/sec. Is that 4G or 3G?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by Asher
Even North American EDGE networks are faster than yours...
Maybe you guys are used to the painfully slow speed? I've no idea.
GSM is crap because it's slow. The fact that Namibia has GSM but no CDMA has no bearing on 99.9999999% of buyers.Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
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Originally posted by Nikolai
Those speeds is what Wikipedia tells me, but they might be wrong of course. Anyway, GSM is more than enough for speaking and sending SMS and MMS, but most people don't need more than that. And 3G is coming...
By the time you guys get to 3G, CDMA will be at "4G"?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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EV-DO is 3G according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Di...ultiple_AccessDo not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
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Originally posted by Nikolai
EV-DO is 3G according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Di...ultiple_Access
Anyway, this is what I mean by GSM being slow. The technology is moving slower than CDMA-based technologies. The speeds are much lower."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by Asher
This is the thing, though. 3G has been here for years. It's still "coming" on GSM networks.
By the time you guys get to 3G, CDMA will be at "4G"?Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
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Originally posted by Nikolai
3G networks opened last year or late 2005 here in Norway IIRC. Was some fuzz about who should get the licences... All new phones except the cheapest ones have 3G by IIUC. Personally, I use my cell phone for SMS and talking, and then I am perfectly content with GSM as of now. But let's face it, 3G will take over someday, in one form or another.
3G is here, virtually every handset sold by CDMA vendors are 3G over here.
The issue isn't when is 3G coming or when will get it get popular. 3G means many things...CDMA "3G" is faster than GSM "3G". And for newer cell phones, like the iPhones and newer Blackberries and other SmartPhones, this is a big deal."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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