Aircraft carriers for everyone!

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
now somebody tell me, is China really worried about a couple of Russian carriers in the Pacific? They are getting along just dandy, are both in the SCO, etc.

Besides that I would think they should build their army up to invade Russia. Why waste resources on a Navy?

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Besides that I would think they should build their army up to invade Russia. Why waste resources on a Navy?

Haven't you heard teh Bob Marley song, "No Navy, No Oil"?

[Shrapnel12]

Too bad we can't bribe Russia and China into a war. We'd probably get a "We just don't like you enough".

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by LordShiva


Haven't you heard teh Bob Marley song, "No Navy, No Oil"?

No, I haven't. But can't they just send 100 million soldiers over there.

[LordShiva]

Not when their APC's fuel tanks are empty.

[Patroklos]

Common now, Chinese troops with APCs? Pssht!

Forced marches The great thing about China is that even if half your troops die on the way you still outnumber your enemy 20:1.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Besides that I would think they should build their army up to invade Russia. Why waste resources on a Navy?

China just bought a carrier from Russia a few months back.

Invasion: Taiwan

[Shrapnel12]

Originally posted by Zkribbler


China just bought a carrier from Russia a few months back.

Invasion: Taiwan

[Patroklos]

I am sure they could use it to ferry at least a thousand troops

Well, to the straights, before they drown anyways.

[lord of the mark]

actually kid is on to something

if Russia and China went to war, Chinese just have to occupy Vladivostok, and bye-bye Russian Pacific fleet.

Germany never defeated the French fleet in 1940, did it matter?

[Ramo]

Odd pattern I just realized: conscription is highly correlated with lack of British rule. Some exceptions to this trend are the Middle East, Japan, and the Netherlands...

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
Germany never defeated the French fleet in 1940, did it matter?

It led to a British v. French naval battle, which really ticked off the Free French.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
actually kid is on to something

if Russia and China went to war, Chinese just have to occupy Vladivostok, and bye-bye Russian Pacific fleet.

Germany never defeated the French fleet in 1940, did it matter?

That comparison is a bit silly. The french fleet couldn't have done anything to prevent the germans to take france while a russian carrier fleet can do bad things to china.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by BlackCat


That comparison is a bit silly. The french fleet couldn't have done anything to prevent the germans to take france while a russian carrier fleet can do bad things to china.

its not perfect, mainly cause China cant take Moscow, while Germany did take Paris. Best I could come with at the moment. But the fact is had france engaged in a protracted war, its fleet would have been part of the blockade of Germany. Germany eliminated the French fleet as a factor by occupying its homeland and main ports. China can largely reduce the Russian Pacific fleet as a factor by taking Vladivostok? Where does the Russian Pac fleet base out of, if China does that, barring an unexpected surge of Russian diplomacy?

[Dr Strangelove]

The way I see it is that there are carriers, then there are carriers. The only country that builds real Fleet aricraft carriers is the United States. Everyone else builds aircraft carriers that fall short of ther US standard, they carry fewer planes, and the planes they do carry are limited in range, payload and performance when compared to land based and US carrier planes.