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**Richelieu** · August 20, 2007, 17:12

Kennedy. Now THAT would be a good show.

**Zkribbler** · August 20, 2007, 18:21

Originally posted by Lancer
"I asked my 4 year old daughter what's her face about what to do about nukes"

What a twit.

Actually, he asked Amy what she thought the biggest problem facing the world was, and she said, "Nukes."

It's probably not wise to use your kid as a Presidential advisor.

It's more worrisome, though, for it to take the Russian invasation of Afghanistan for him to realize the Soviets couldn't be trusted.

That was almost as bad as Reagan trusting in the Laffer Curve to argue he could increase military spending, cut taxes and balance the budget.

**Imran Siddiqui** · August 20, 2007, 18:24

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Actually, TR made the same pledge and kept it -- to his everlasting regret; I believe he called making that pledge the single biggest mistake of his life.

When you decide to run again, that isn't "[keeping] it"

**Lord Avalon** · August 20, 2007, 18:36

Originally posted by Winston
Or we could just give it to Reagan and be done with it.

Only if it were Phil Hartman as Reagan.

**Elok** · August 20, 2007, 18:41

Originally posted by Zkribbler
It's probably not wise to use your kid as a Presidential advisor.

Didn't Reagan employ astrology or something?

**Lancer** · August 20, 2007, 18:43

Nancy did.

Kennedy would be considered a right wing nut by today's left. But...bring back Jackie

**Rufus T. Firefly** · August 20, 2007, 19:02

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

When you decide to run again, that isn't "[keeping] it"

Fair enough. but if he'd run in 1908, he would have won. More TR + no Wilson in 1912; damned shame he kept that promise even as long as heh did.

**Imran Siddiqui** · August 20, 2007, 19:11

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Fair enough. but if he'd run in 1908, he would have won. More TR + no Wilson in 1912; damned shame he kept that promise even as long as heh did.

At the same token, LESS TR, no Wilson in 1912

. TR + Taft in 1912 easily beat Wilson. Now, La Follette may have gotten some votes, but not enough, IMO, to prevent Taft from winning.

**Zkribbler** · August 20, 2007, 22:11

LESS TR, no Wilson in 1912 . TR + Taft in 1912 easily beat Wilson.

Imran, what the hell are you talking about??

**Imran Siddiqui** · August 20, 2007, 23:24

Originally posted by Zkribbler
Imran, what the hell are you talking about??

Add up the votes TR and Taft got in the 1912 election. Compare them to Wilson's. I'm sure the EC would have looked totally different.

**Odin** · August 20, 2007, 23:34

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Truman

The buck stops here.

**Wycoff** · August 21, 2007, 00:04

John Quincy Adams

**Rufus T. Firefly** · August 21, 2007, 00:48

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

At the same token, LESS TR, no Wilson in 1912

. TR + Taft in 1912 easily beat Wilson. Now, La Follette may have gotten some votes, but not enough, IMO, to prevent Taft from winning.

True, true. And Lafollette wasn't running; forth major candidate was Debs, who wouldn't have siphoned off any GOP votes.

**Apocalypse** · August 21, 2007, 05:02

Originally posted by Zkribbler
That was almost as bad as Reagan trusting in the Laffer Curve to argue he could increase military spending, cut taxes and balance the budget.

Except these policies made Reagan single handedly responsible for the economic growth in the 90 when combined with the Contract with America and the 94 congress.

**Julian Delphiki** · August 21, 2007, 11:02

Urho Kekkonen of course, that should be obvious to everyone.

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