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  • Greatest Civiliztion in History

    Laz could you top this thread

    I've created a process that should take awhile (over a month) to find the greatest civilization in History. Here are the rules for nominations:

    1. each person may nominate 4 civs (the number may increase if nominations are few)

    2. you may only nominate 1 civ from each of the following groups: Americas, Europe, Greco-Roman (the only culture based group while the others are regional), Middle East, Africa (not including the M E), Asia (also not including the M E).

    3. only 8 civs from each group will be taken. If one group is not geting many nominations and the group you want give a nomination in is full, you may go ahead and give the nomination although it may get bumped. So say Group A only has 6 nominations and Group B has 8 nominations and you want to nominate in Group B. After you nominate that civ, Group A gets 2 more nominations. Your nomination gets bumped and you may pick a replacement. The process swhich lets you do this will be explained later.

    4. After a week, no new nomiations will be accepted

    Here are the judging catagories (if you think another one is needed or one should be taken away please say so):

    1. Historical Significance- how much they affected history (plaese say if you think this this one should be given double weight)
    2. Military Power- how powerful their military was
    3. Political Power- How easily the leader(s) could affect external events
    4. Cultural Power- How unique the culture of this civ was (by unique I mean compared to ones that came earlier), how long lasting the culture was, and how easily the culture was adopted elsewhere
    5. Economic Power- how powerful the econemy of the civ was without having to plunder its own land or make incredibally high taxes and how far reaching their trade was.
    6. Scientific Development- how many scientific advances and important inventions were made here
    7. Architectural Achievements- how good their Architecture was compared others of their time
    8. Centraliztion- how unified the civ was

    I will now explain the rest of the process:

    After 48 civs are nominated or one week comes up, 2 polls will be started with 3 groups voting in each poll. You may vote for 4 civs for each catagory. (Plaese say if think that number should be reduced 3 Greco-Roman and increased to 5 Middle East or if you think any other group should have one taken away another increased) Voting will go on for 4 days. When voting is over, the top 4 civs (with the exceptins explained above) from each catagory will go on.

    A thread for discustions over how each of the civs is good the 8 catagories above will then be posted. After 4 days a poll in which you vote for 10 of the 24 civs will be posted. The poll will be open for 4 days. After that the top 10 civs fo on. A week of discusstion over what civs are best in each of the catagories will then go on. After a week you may then give your score (0-10) to each civ in each catagory. After a week all civs scores for each catagory will then be averaged and added up. The top (please what number you think should go here) will go on. 4 days of discusstion will then go on over the remaining civs. Then a poll will decide who is the greatest.

    Remember, constructive comment are welcome.
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    I'll nominate Rome, Egypt, Italy, and China

    I also vote to give double weight to the historical signifacance catagory, to give 3 places to Greco-Romans and 5 to Middle East in the top 24, and to let 4 civs in the finals.

    last updated 6:12 CDT (GMT-6) 18th of July 2007

    nominated civs:

    Americas (nominations open)
    USA
    Inca
    Mayas
    Aztecs
    Olmecs

    Europe (further nominations will be accepted but may be bumped)
    Italy
    Germany (and all previous incarnations)
    England/ Great Britian/ UK
    France
    Poland
    Spain
    Bulgaria
    Viking

    Greco-Roman (nominations open)
    Rome
    Greece
    Macodonia
    Byzantium

    Middle East (nominations open)
    Egypt
    Persia
    Hebrews
    Arabia
    Babylon
    The Ottamans/Turks
    Sumeria

    Africa (nominations open)
    Mauritania
    Ethiopia

    Asia (nominations open)
    China
    India
    Mongols
    Japan
    Khmer
    Korea
    Polynesia

    0 of 3 votes in favor of making 3 finalists
    2 of 3 votes in favor of making 4 finalists
    1 of 3 votes in favor of making 5 finalists
    Last edited by Will9; July 18, 2007, 19:13.
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    • #3
      I'll nominate Germany (in all its incarnations, including HRE), Greece, the Hebrews and India.

      Btw Will, having nominated both Rome and Italy, are you referring to ancient/classical Rome and renaissance/modern Italy?

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      • #4
        Persia

        Greece

        Rome

        Monguls
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        • #5
          Patroklos, you still have can still nominate 2 more since Greece and Rome are already nominated.

          @Alexander: yes
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          • #6
            Re: Greatest Civiliztion in History

            United States
            England/Great Britain/United Kingdom
            Arabia
            Japan
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            • #7
              I vote against doubling historical significance.

              I vote in favor of taking a Greco-Roman spot and giving it to mideast.

              I also vote in favor of taking an African spot and giving it to Europe.

              I vote in favor of having 5 finalists.
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              • #8
                Patroklos, you still have can still nominate 2 more since Greece and Rome are already nominated.
                Alright, I reserve those pending research
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                • #9
                  I nominate Macedonia, in memory of Alexandre, the Inca civilization, Babylone, and .... France.
                  Statistical anomaly.
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                  • #10
                    Rome
                    England
                    China
                    Persia
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                    • #11
                      Mauretania
                      Poland
                      Joos
                      Mongorians
                      Blah

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                      • #12
                        I have doubts about historical significance because before the 16th century, old civilizations have no opportunity to influence others beyond their continent.
                        I would prefer to consider rather the originality, that is the fact that a civ has received limited influences of other civ or even no influence at all.
                        Statistical anomaly.
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                        • #13
                          The Roman Empire
                          The British Empire
                          The Ottoman Empire
                          China
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                          • #14
                            Eli, You still have 4 nominations.
                            Bebro, the Hebrews have already been nominated so you have 1 left.
                            Rufus, you have 3 nominations left
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                            • #15
                              Mauritania
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