French loosers defend Hezbullah terrorist leaders

[Timexwatch]

Waylaying 'terrorists' headed to summits is a fine French tradition dating back to the days of the Algerian war. I say let the Israelis continue the tradition...

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Hezbullah are not criminals.

I'm wondering is there any particular reason why you are spelling it "Hezbullah"? Heresson is spelling it "Hizballah". And then there is "Hesbollah", which is often used. Which version is correct?

[SlowwHand]

You're asking about what teh Heresson says?
Sirotnikov is right, per me.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by VetLegion


I'm wondering is there any particular reason why you are spelling it "Hezbullah"? Heresson is spelling it "Hizballah". And then there is "Hesbollah", which is often used. Which version is correct?

Originally posted by VetLegion


I'm wondering is there any particular reason why you are spelling it "Hezbullah"? Heresson is spelling it "Hizballah". And then there is "Hesbollah", which is often used. Which version is correct?

Well, first, i've seen it as the more often used transliteration.

Second, It is "Hizb" (party) + "(Al)lah" (god), but the word Hizb is part of an "ownership" combination, so it should receive the ending "u", while the "Al" in Allah should be silent, if I recall correctly.

So it's "Hizb + ul + lah". Only the "hiz" does not make an "ee" noise but a shorter more closed one. So I change it to "Hez" so it would sound correct.

The pronouncation punch should be on the last "lah". As in Hizb-ul-lah.


Heresson studied arabic as well, so he might correct me, since I'm a little rough.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

I just think that the french safe haven is atrocious.
Any other self-respecting country would have arrested those people, instead of sending troops to secure their meeting.

Most "self-respecting countries" have not listed Hisbullah as a terrorist organization.

[TheStinger]

Would the US have allowed the Israelis to assisinate Arafat when he came to the UN in the 70's.

Of course not.

[MOBIUS]

The OP merely betrays the amoral attitude of a country built on the back of terrorism, that has spent its entire existence provoking its neighbours, launching pre-emptive wars, committing war crimes, violating neutral countries national borders and sovereignty and even deliberately attacking its own ally - why should anyone now be surprised that they continue to behave in this way...?

[lord of the mark]

I doubt the Israelis would do anything to piss off France, when the new French govt is doing so many right things wrt Hamas, Iran, and Lebanon.

Why France is inviting Hezobollahniks? Well France likes to think of itself as the mediator-protector etc over Lebanon. Given the alternatives, thats not necessarilly a bad thing. I doubt France can turn Hezbollah, but who knows.

Interestingly, Assad has admitted that a third country is acting as a go between in Syrian-Israeli contacts. Perhaps its France? Perhaps this whole little ruckus (iin a presumably unreliable Kuwaiti paper) is planted as a distraction?

Meanwhile other interesting things happen. Israel releases 250 Fatah prisoners. Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade militants agree to lay down arms, in return for Israel agreeing not to pursue them, and there are reports that Nablus is no longer roamed by armed AAMBniks. An Hamas prisoner is released by Israel, and agrees to support Abbas over Hamas. Hamas kidnaps one more Fatahnik in Gaza (per J Post). Abbas suggest early elections may take place.

[Sirotnikov]

Interestingly, Assad has admitted that a third country is acting as a go between in Syrian-Israeli contacts. Perhaps its France? Perhaps this whole little ruckus (iin a presumably unreliable Kuwaiti paper) is planted as a distraction?

it most probably isn't france.
Israel would never trust them, and rightfully so (sorry spiff).

I doubt the Israelis would do anything to piss off France, when the new French govt is doing so many right things wrt Hamas, Iran, and Lebanon.

How about - agree on collecting intel. together?

Most probably, Israel wanted to bug the Lebanese meetings, and france gave the warning to prevent Israeli action on its soil.

What they should be doing, is arresting anyone in relation with Hizbullah.

Most "self-respecting countries" have not listed Hisbullah as a terrorist organization.

Actually, as of late, most have listed Hezbullah's military wing as a terrorist organization.

And everyone knows (though it is politically unpleasant to admit) that the political arm is always in direct control of the military arm.

It is so in Hezbullah, in Hamas and in every self respecting organization.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by TheStinger
Would the US have allowed the Israelis to assisinate Arafat when he came to the UN in the 70's.

Of course not.

Well they shouldn't have hosted him there anyway. He was always a terrorist and died a terrorist.

It was the 1974 version of inviting Osama bin-Laden to speak in front of the UN

Pres. Ford was played by anti-Israeli Kissinger, who had his own vision of things, and seemed to have always hoped for Israel to return to its 'natural' size.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov


Actually, as of late, most have listed Hezbullah's military wing as a terrorist organization.

And everyone knows (though it is politically unpleasant to admit) that the political arm is always in direct control of the military arm.

It is so in Hezbullah, in Hamas and in every self respecting organization.

Well, everyone except those states that have not labelled the entire organization as terrorist, so you really ought to stop using the word "most".

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by GePap


Most "self-respecting countries" have not listed Hisbullah as a terrorist organization.

That may not be entirely correct.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

Well they shouldn't have hosted him there anyway. He was always a terrorist and died a terrorist.

He did seem to have a legitimate aim though, a bit like those Israelis who murederd the British in that Hotel Bombing

[lord of the mark]

Theres no need to get sidetracked into a comparison of Arafats work to the King David bombing. The fact is the Arafat visit wasnt comparable anyway. The US did not invite Arafat, the UN did, and the US as host country to the UN is OBLIGATED to allow UN invitees to attend. The only choice we have would be to cease to be a host country. That would be a big decision, and Arafats attendence wasnt enough to get the Ford administration to do that, and probably wouldnt for most US admins.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
Theres no need to get sidetracked into a comparison of Arafats work to the King David bombing.

Not if you want to sweep things under the carpet there isn't...

But then Israel doesn't give a **** about the UN either, actively targeting UN positions and killing UN peace keepers when it lost the Lebanon war last year - or even murdering a UN diplomat Count Folke Bernadotte (kinda ironic considering he was responsible for saving thousands of Jews from German concentration camps in WWII!) in cold blood, ordered by Yitzhak Shamir who was to become a future prime minister of Israel!

Israel was built on the type of terrorism that its apologists on this forum hypocritically condemn Hezbollah for! It still commits war crimes on a regular basis and is in direct violation of numerous UN resolutions.