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The fact that you consider sexuality a 'disorder' and choose to bring the supernatural into it, tells me quite enough, thanks.
Starchild...pretty much same reply as molly bloom...equally as shallow. I expect that from you two though.
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Ok, so basically you disagree that it's a disorder and can't substantiate any of it. You then go on to make yourself look like an idiot by thinking that I believe in god when in reality I was checking to see if Slowwhand's remark was in reference to god since he believed it not to be a mistake. Just so we're clear, I don't believe in god.
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To clarify my beliefs:
I believe in God, and I don't pretend to understand His plans.
I don't think He makes mistakes, and I would hope that no gay, or straight, would be so uncomfortable inside their own skin that they would think to change themself.
Right or wrong, those are my opinions.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
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You allege that it is a disorder, and don't give reasoning either--so that's a wash.
As far as a reference to a God, I think Molly's reply was well justified--most people who do think that it's a disorder also happen to be devout religionistas.
It's an understandable conflation, incorrect though it may be.
...and Elok, you're not referring to our Texan Friend of the Program and Agenda, are you?B♭3Comment
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Re: Re: Re: For the homosexuals:
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The very fact that homosexuality deviates from the norm makes it a disorder.You allege that it is a disorder, and don't give reasoning either--so that's a wash.Comment
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I'm responding to the OP and its numerous, stupid follow-ups. What a rectal chapeau. I haven't been following it that closely, but the most recent evidence I heard of suggests hormonal balance in utero is responsible, not genes. Plus of course the perfectly tactful "Hey, would you like to stop being a subhuman abomination? Why are you getting mad, it's a simple question!"
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Like lefthandedness? Or unusual height?Originally posted by EyesOfNight
The very fact that homosexuality deviates from the norm makes it a disorder.Comment
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You get like +10Originally posted by SlowwHand
To clarify my beliefs:
I believe in God, and I don't pretend to understand His plans.
I don't think He makes mistakes, and I would hope that no gay, or straight, would be so uncomfortable inside their own skin that they would think to change themself.
Right or wrong, those are my opinions.
from me now.
Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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No, and noI will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
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A deviation from the norm does not necessarily a disorder make.Originally posted by EyesOfNight
The very fact that homosexuality deviates from the norm makes it a disorder.
Intelligence, for example. If we postulate that the IQ is actually a useful measure, we also have to accept the assumption that the norm, a score of 100, is the average. Intelligent people scoring higher than 100 are deviations from that norm--and therefore, by your logic, a disordered people.
Would you want to "cure" them of this? Beethoven's musical genius, for instance, or Einstein's ability to have thought experiements. Even your relatives' intelligence?
Or, let's take a look at cosmology:
The norm outside of the solar system is a whole lot of empty space. There's nothing, really. This makes Earth--and life--itself a deviation from the norm. Would you consider this a disorder?B♭3Comment
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Which changes what? Either way, if it's something that can be cured, the question still stands. As for the person that voted the cure shouldn't be used on future generations, I think you're being awfully selfish. I don't think anyone can honestly say that it's better to be homo than hetero. If you don't want to change, fine, but don't force future generations to go through all the ridicule and obvious setbacks homos endure.I haven't been following it that closely, but the most recent evidence I heard of suggests hormonal balance in utero is responsible, not genes.Comment
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Lets go this route then. Deviations from the norm in a negative way are disorders. Would this be disagreeable? For that matter, do you believe that homosexuality then would not be classified as a disorder?A deviation from the norm does not necessarily a disorder make.
Intelligence, for example. If we postulate that the IQ is actually a useful measure, we also have to accept the assumption that the norm, a score of 100, is the average. Intelligent people scoring higher than 100 are deviations from that norm--and therefore, by your logic, a disordered people.Comment
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I question why you consider homosexuality to be a negative deviation.Originally posted by EyesOfNight
Lets go this route then. Deviations from the norm in a negative way are disorders. Would this be disagreeable? For that matter, do you believe that homosexuality then would not be classified as a disorder?B♭3Comment
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Lets go this route then. Deviations from the norm in a negative way are disorders. Would this be disagreeable?
This is false as a general principle. If one is to judge deviations from the norm, they should at least look at the particulars of the deviation."In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, HyperionComment
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