For the homosexuals:

[Kuciwalker]

Bull****, coming from someone who is yet to post something remotely amusing.

That's particularly bad coming after the post it did.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Agathon
Proceed with blood sample to the state woman verification office now!!!

I forgot - she likes the History Channel too.

[Blaupanzer]

Not sure what to make of this prejudiced poll. Would heteros choose to be gay (or bi) if the option was open? Changing one's genes in adulthood would only affect one's offspring. Many gays do not have offspring, making such a change meaningless for them. Let people live their own lives.

BTW, I am hetero, married 33 years, but I just cannot believe EON wants to post this cr*p, or that Ming thinks it a good idea. Nonviolent, voluntary sexuality is not a "disorder," no matter what the choice is.

Sloww.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

Bull****, coming from someone who is yet to post something remotely amusing.

That's particularly bad coming after the post it did.

Don't blame Cort. He's an Arsenal supporter.

[Sirotnikov]

molly, as all-knowing as you appear/pretend to be, your posts are atrocious to read because of:

a) poor formatting
b) really annoying condescending attitude.

i think that lots of points have been made recently about civil discussion.

While you aren't as coarse as EoN (implying you're an idiot) some of your posts were the more annoying read.


As for the point made- I really don't see why all the gays are getting all defensive like that.

Yes, the question implies that being gay can be unfun, unpleasant, and even "wrong". It is still an interesting question to answer. First answer it, then proceed to bash EoN for his unprogressive views

whether I would change my sexual orientation to heterosexuality is completely irrelevant to me, because I have never known a life as a heterosexual. The only thing that changed in my life, was the day that I fiinally understood why I was different, and I realized not only what I was not, but what I am . . . .

this is probably the most interesting and best answer in the thread.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

Bull****, coming from someone who is yet to post something remotely amusing.

That's particularly bad coming after the post it did.

I was referring to you, not Agathon - in case you didn't realise.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Agathon
Don't blame Cort. He's an Arsenal supporter.

Pssst, Aggie. Wanna defender?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
I was referring to you, not Agathon - in case you didn't realise.

I realized that, in case you didn't realize you're the one missing a couple pieces.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov


this is probably the most interesting and best answer in the thread.

Wow . . . .


are you sure about this?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Pssst, Aggie. Wanna defender?

We've managed for 30 years without one, so I don't see why that should change.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by MrFun

Wow . . . .
are you sure about this?

Yes.

Because it helped me relate and understand your point of view much better than the regular "what a dumb question" reply.

not that your reply did not have its share of criticism for EoN.

[Berzerker]

If you don't want to change, fine, but don't force future generations to go through all the ridicule and obvious setbacks homos endure.

Would the cure have any side effects? Like, becoming bigoted toward gays? Thats basically asking black slaves if they'd want to be white given how they're treated for being black slaves. You're asking the victim to change rather than ask if the norm is worthy of a following.

[Sirotnikov]

You're asking the victim to change rather than ask if the norm is worthy of a following.

same thing.
the question is practical not moral.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

b) really annoying condescending attitude.

Imagine if someone seriously proposed that you could choose to have all your 'problems' solved for you by simply no longer being Jewish, or having the 'defective' Jewish gene deleted.


How offended might you be ?


How wonderful- no more antisemitism, no more blood libels, no more anti-Jewish stereotyping, no more pogroms- because we'd all be goyz in da hood.

With rollback hoods too, presumably.

molly, as all-knowing as you pretend to be,

I don't 'pretend' to be anything.

Take my posts as they are. If you don't like 'em, the solution is obvious and in your hands- don't read them.

i think that lots of points have been made recently about civil discussion.

Then perhaps before you started this post in the fashion you did, you should have reviewed and inwardly digested them.

Your post's prefatory remarks might have been the better for it.

I really don't see why all the gays are getting all defensive like that.

Then that is your deficit in understanding or empathy.


I could list a large number of countries where homosexuality (and homosexual 'acts') is outlawed and punishable by death or imprisonment.

I could cite the legislation passed by a Conservative government in this country which attempted not only to stigmatize lesbians and gay men, but which tried to prevent school children even being taught about the existence of homosexuality.

Or the on-off campaigns in the newspapers and other media which regularly spuriously link same sex acts between consenting adults with predatory paedophilia- even when the perpetrators are married.

Or the ostracism experienced by young gays and lesbians, the atrocious disproportionate harassment suffered by lesbian and gay schoolchildren and the concomitant high suicide rates.

I could descant at length on threats in the workplace, snide remarks in the office, lack of promotion, and so on, ad infinitum.

Yes, the question implies that being gay can be unfun, unpleasant, and even "wrong".

No, the question and the poser of the question does more than imply it- the fault is OURS ALONE, OUR 'defective' genes.


Happily, in the kingdom of the blind even a one-eyed man can be king.

[Impaler[WrG]]

How long till they are able to 'correct' the rabid religious fundamentalism and bigotry gene