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  • #31
    Mosque bombings/occupations/etc only rise significant ire when it's westerners (or Israelis) who do it, so I'm inclined to think it's mostly a convenient excuse to vent.
    When is the last time we did it? For the most part it is us who gets mad when muslims do it.
    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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    • #32
      Agreed. At some point we're going to get mad enough.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Last Conformist

        While occupying churches isn't particularly nice, how on earth is it a "terrible war crime"?
        The Geneva and Hague conventions define several places, including houses of warship, as protected places. Taking Priests hostage and protected places is explicitly defined as a war crime. At least the party which which uses a protected place for military purposes is defined to have committed a war crime.

        That's why so many people get pissed off that the Taliban and the Iraqi insurgents continually use Mosques to hide weapons and to shoot from. Each time something like that happens it is technically a war crime.
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        • #34
          It also doesn't help that muslim populations gloss over the fact that insurgensts were using them and instead focus solely on us shooting at/clearing insurgets their mosques.

          No choice though, becasue as soon as we don't and thus validate the tactic of using mosques as safe houses, we pretty much doom every such place to being used as such.
          "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Oerdin
            The Geneva and Hague conventions define several places, including houses of warship, as protected places. Taking Priests hostage and protected places is explicitly defined as a war crime. At least the party which which uses a protected place for military purposes is defined to have committed a war crime.
            As far as I can see the monks denied they were held involuntarily.

            And most mainstream reports (even Fox News) I've come across say there was little damage, although the place was dirty. There had been a fire in an adjoining quarter, which may have been caused by an IDF flare. They say valuables were taken but that some to most was returned. I also haven't seen any reports of drawn-out gunfights during the siege.

            Picture of the clean-up:



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            • #36
              Can you imagine what would happen if Isreali activists did even half that at the Temple Mount?
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              • #37
                Yeah I can. But if I slap you in the face that doesn't mean you get carte blance to tell everyone I ate your babies.
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                • #38
                  You forgot to mention the booby traps and other explosives littered about but it was an accurate summary, Colon.
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                  • #39
                    I suppose they set up booby-traps although part of the deal was that they'd leave their guns and explosives behind. And you'd be talking about a lousy bunch of terrorists if they wouldn't have had bombs.
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                    • #40
                      You ain't nothing as a terrorist without a bomb.
                      What are you going to do, threaten to gouge your eyes out with a plastic spoon and gross everyone out, hoping some get trampled to death in the ensuing rush to clear the area?
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #41
                        Re: Would something happen if islamic terrorist put a bomb...

                        Originally posted by Barnabas
                        in an important christian place (Saint Peters, Holy Sepulchre, Santiago de Compostela, Notre Dame etc) and they succed in blowing up the place utterly destroying it?

                        Sincerely I think nothing would happen, only words of condemnation by leaders around the world (including religious muslim leaders)

                        I dont complain actually, going to war for monuments seems like an exageration to me.
                        I'm sure there would be a vigorous investigation, and an attempt to apprehend the culprits. Most terracts in Europe have been conducted by local muslims, so the responsibility for handling of the case would probably primarily rest on the local authorities. If the culprits were traced back to a muslim nation I'm sure that co-operation would be extended. IIRC Morocco willingly co-operated with the apprehension of the Madrid bombers. If the culprits managed to escape to al-Qaeda held teritory in Pakistan matters would be more complicated since the government of Pakistan is said to no longer really control those areas.
                        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Oerdin


                          The Geneva and Hague conventions define several places, including houses of warship, as protected places.
                          Nice typo.

                          Silly specification if you ask me, but I guess that's fair.
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                          • #43
                            Re: Re: Would something happen if islamic terrorist put a bomb...

                            Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                            If the culprits managed to escape to al-Qaeda held teritory in Pakistan matters would be more complicated since the government of Pakistan is said to no longer really control those areas.
                            Did they ever?
                            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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                            • #44
                              Look, it's obvious, just ban religion outright!

                              It amazes me how much of this world is still saddled with these backward beliefs - get real people, it is the 21st century after all...

                              No organised religions = less excuse to fight each other!
                              Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                              • #45
                                And no, I don't want the buildings destroyed or anything as I have visited some of the world's most important religious sites, they are in the main very beautiful and can definitely be admired for their architecture, history, superstitions surrounding their founding etc...

                                They also should serve as reminders of man's follies, and a more barbaric past when people believed in the supernatural.

                                Obviously most people in the world aren't civilised enough yet to appreciate this concept, but we can always live in hope for the future...
                                Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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