Cheney Defies Bush Order; Endangers National Security

[DRoseDARs]

Screw "call(ing) his ass out." Impeach his ass.

[snoopy369]

I think it's fairly hard to impeach a VP, though. He doesn't have enough power to easily abuse it, officially speaking.

[OzzyKP]

Better living through definitions.

"That depends on what the definition of is, is."

Creation of "enemy combatants" who are neither criminals nor prisoners of war.

And now this. (and no doubt many more things I missed).

The next president will say "no, I didn't murder that man, I merely contributed to his unplanned death, it is like a totally different legal term that you haven't specifically written a law against yet, so there."

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by snoopy369
I think it's fairly hard to impeach a VP, though. He doesn't have enough power to easily abuse it, officially speaking.

Well, if he wants to play games like this with the USC, Congress ought to call his bluff and declare him a secessionist or, as Keith Olbermann so succinctly put it, a rogue nation.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
The next president will say "no, I didn't murder that man, I merely contributed to his unplanned death, it is like a totally different legal term that you haven't specifically written a law against yet, so there."

Cheney got pretty close to that one when he shot his friend in the face.

[Seeker]

"no, I didn't murder that man, I merely contributed to his unplanned death, it is like a totally different legal term that you haven't specifically written a law against yet, so there."

Wasn't this defence in OJ's last book or something?

[Guynemer]

Wasn't Cheney claiming Executive Priviledge when he was refusing to divulge details of his meetings with energy executives back in 2001?

[Kuciwalker]

It's possible that the fact that he's part of the legislature gives him some immunity from executive orders, whereas the executive nature of his job gives him executive privelege. And honestly, isn't it kind of silly to complain about the VP violating an order signed by the President?

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Wasn't Cheney claiming Executive Priviledge when he was refusing to divulge details of his meetings with energy executives back in 2001?

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/26/cheney-exec-branch/

FLASHBACK: Cheney Argued Energy Task Force Probe ‘Interfered With Executive Branch’

The Office of the Vice President has asserted that Dick Cheney “is not an entity within the Executive Branch” in order to thwart an investigation into his handling of classified material. But there was once a time when Cheney prevented investigations by claiming they interfered with the Executive Branch.

Dana Milbank reports today in the Washington Post:

Cheney has refused to comply with an order governing the care of classified documents; his office concluded that the order does not apply because he is not “an entity within the executive branch.”

That’s quite opposite the argument Cheney made in 2001, when he said that a congressional probe into the workings of his energy task force “would unconstitutionally interfere with the functioning of the executive branch.” Cheney has, in effect, declared himself to be neither fish nor fowl but an exotic, extraconstitutional beast who answers to no one.

Milbank is referring to an instance in 2001 when GAO chief David Walker sent a “demand letter” for information and documents related to Cheney’s energy task force meetings. In response, Cheney wrote a letter to Congress informing lawmakers “of certain actions undertaken by an agent of the Congress, Comptroller General David M. Walker, which exceed his lawful authority and which, if given effect, would unconstitutionally interfere with the functioning of the executive branch.”

Appearing on ABC’s Nightline on July 25, 2001, Cheney said, “This request that in fact we’re supposed to provide [Congress] with this information with respect to…those meetings in the Executive Branch between the Vice President and other individuals strikes me as inappropriate.” Last night, The Daily Show aired the footage of Cheney’s remarks. Watch it:

Video follows at the link.

[Dinner]

I hate Chaney.

[LordShiva]

wtf oerdin

[DRoseDARs]

Edit: Now if the mods would be so kind as to delete any references to that post...

[DinoDoc]

You people laughed at me when I said Oerdin was sliding into mental illness. Look at him now.

[Drake Tungsten]

Creation of "enemy combatants" who are neither criminals nor prisoners of war.

The concept of "unlawful combatants" has been around for over a century...

[Drake Tungsten]

Screw this. I'm not getting myself in trouble by covering for Oerdin when the mods won't even do anything themselves to fix the damage. Original quote going back up...

Originally posted by Oerdin
Dickhead Cheney should simply be dragged out into the street and shot. Alive he is a danger to civilization and humanity. He must be euthanised to save the rest of American society.

Google cache of original...

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