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  • Cheney Defies Bush Order; Endangers National Security

    Oooh, I like my spin on the following story


    Democrats Rip Cheney On Security Filings

    Cheney Seeks To Abolish Information Security Oversight Office


    WASHINGTON -- House Democrats on Thursday denounced Vice President Dick Cheney's idea of abolishing a government office charged with safeguarding national security information -- and criticized him for refusing to cooperate with the agency.

    Cheney's office -- over the objections of the National Archives -- has exempted itself from a presidential executive order that seeks to protect national security information generated by the government, according to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

    Under the order, executive branch offices are required to give the Information Security Oversight Office at the archives data on how much material it has classified and declassified.

    Cheney's office provided the information in 2001 and 2002, then stopped. Henry Waxman, chairman of the committee, said Cheney's office claims it need not comply with the executive order because it is not an "entity within the executive branch."

    "Your decision to except your office from the president's order is problematic because it could place national security secrets at risk," Waxman wrote in a letter to Cheney on Thursday.

    Megan McGinn, a spokeswoman for the vice president, said Cheney's office was not breaking the law, but did not elaborate.

    "We are confident that we are conducting the office properly under the law," she said.

    The Information Security Oversight Office has asked Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to resolve the legal dispute over whether the order applies to Cheney's office. So far, the Justice Department has not ruled on the issue.

    Waxman said J. William Leonard, director of the Information Security Oversight Office, told the panel that after he sought advice from the Justice Department, Cheney's office recommended that the executive order be amended to abolish the ISOO. "I question both the legality and wisdom of your actions," Waxman said.

    Waxman said Leonard also told the panel that in 2004, Cheney's office blocked the archives from doing an onsite inspection of his office to make sure classified information was being properly protected.

    "To my knowledge, this was the first time in the nearly 30-year history of the Information Security Oversight Office that a request for access to conduct a security inspection was denied by a White House office," Waxman wrote.

    The eight-page letter asks Cheney to respond to a series of questions about why he believes his office is exempt, and what steps his office has taken to ensure that national security information is protected.
    The good news is Alberto Gonzales is now on the case. We can expect a non-biased decision from him.

  • #2
    Ah, good to know the Vice President is not part of the executive branch. Perhaps he's in the Judicial branch? Or Legislative?

    I guess he gets a tiebreaking vote in the Senate, so ... maybe he thinks that makes him legislative branch?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by snoopy369
      I guess he gets a tiebreaking vote in the Senate, so ... maybe he thinks that makes him legislative branch?
      That's his claim.

      I say we add this as a count in Kucinich's bill of impeachment!

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      • #4
        wait, he's really claiming that?

        He must be working to prepare an insanity defense
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        • #5
          Here's the letter Cheney received from Congressman Waxman regarding the VP's non compliance with the Information Security Oversight Office.

          Click here and here to find out how close the George Washington Bridge came to being blown up on 9/11 and why all evidence against those terrorists was classified. Click here to see the influence of Neocon Zionists in the USA and how they benefitted from 9/11. Remember the USS Liberty and the Lavon Affair.

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          • #6
            Re: Cheney Defies Bush Order; Endangers National Security

            Originally posted by Zkribbler
            The good news is Alberto Gonzales is now on the case. We can expect a non-biased decision from him.
            How does that guy still have a job?
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            • #7
              Re: Re: Cheney Defies Bush Order; Endangers National Security

              Originally posted by DaShi
              How does that guy still have a job?
              It's hard to get fired from government work.
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              • #8
                Re: Re: Re: Cheney Defies Bush Order; Endangers National Security

                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                It's hard to get fired from government work.
                Not the head of agencies like that. Those guys serve at the pleasure of the President.

                I guess Alberto's good at pleasuring the President.

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                • #9
                  It was a joke.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zkribbler
                    I guess Alberto's good at pleasuring the President.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      It was a joke.
                      No. It was a straight line. Mine was the joke.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by snoopy369
                        Ah, good to know the Vice President is not part of the executive branch. Perhaps he's in the Judicial branch? Or Legislative?
                        This is what Dick thinks the organization of the government is:
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                        • #13
                          "wait, he's really claiming that?"

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                          • #14
                            Oerdin, shouldn't that have Cheney above the branches?
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                            • #15
                              Repeated elsewhere, as well. The assertion of the uniqueness of the Office of the Vice President (OVP) is old news, mentioned in 2004 in the...


                              Don't know anything about the site, I just read today that some of the VP funds come from legislative sources and googled it.


                              Repeated elsewhere, as well.

                              The assertion of the uniqueness of the Office of the Vice President (OVP) is old news, mentioned in 2004 in the 'United States Government Policy and Supporting Positions' (Plum Book):

                              APPENDIX NO. 5

                              OFFICE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT

                              The Vice Presidency is a unique office that is neither a part of the executive branch nor a part of the legislative branch, but is attached by the Constitution to the latter. The Vice Presidency performs functions in both the legislative branch (see article I, section 3 of the Constitution) and in the executive branch (see article II, and amendments XII and XXV, of the Constitution, and section 106 of title 3 of the United States Code).

                              The annual legislative branch appropriations act (see, for example, Public Law 108–83) and the annual transportation-treasury appropriations act (see, for example, Public Law 108–199) provide funds for the Vice President to hire employees to assist him in carrying out his legislative and executive functions. Executive branch employees also may be assigned or detailed to the Vice President (see 3 U.S.C. 112) and the Vice President may employ consultants (see 3 U.S.C. 106(a)). The Office of the Vice President (OVP) consists of the aggregation of Vice Presidential employees whose salary is disbursed by the Secretary of the Senate from the Vice President’s legislative appropriation, Vice Presidential employees employed with the Vice President’s executive appropriation, employees assigned or detailed to the Vice President, and consultants engaged by the Vice President.

                              The numbers, titles and salaries of OVP personnel change with some frequency. The salaries of Vice Presidential employees whose salary is disbursed by the Secretary of the Senate from the Vice President’s legislative appropriation cannot exceed a maximum specified by law (see 2 U.S.C.60a–1). The salaries of Vice Presidential mployees whose salary comes from the Vice President’s executive appropriation also cannot exceed a maximum specified by law (see 3 U.S.C. 106).

                              The authority to appoint, administratively determine the pay of, and discharge Vice Presidential employees rests with the Vice President.

                              The Office of the Vice President is listed under the Executive Branch heading in the online Plum Books for years 1996 and 2000, but not 2004, the year in which the above excerpted statement appears.

                              Looks like there may be some legal wiggle room (I'm the last to be giving constitutional law advice though) and before Oerdin's panties twist tighter than a twisy tie on a loaf of bread, I think the argument is BS. Hopefully someone will call his ass out on it.
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