Ban alcohol, ban porn, they can't handle it, damn immature teenag.... oh, Aborigines

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Nugog


Actually - when I was in the outback a few years ago - there were some very successfully run "dry" camps. But these were deemed to be dry by the "elders" not the government.

While it is easy to dismiss - man - something has to be done. I saw some horrific things while I was there.

Not an easy situation - and personally I think more needs to be done than saying "they need to change".

Yeah, true enough. I'd be all for a non-government solution like the elder-run dry camps that you mentioned.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
No, just created by them in the first place...

Aren't all problems created by White people?

[Japher]

I think it's stupid to believe that the cause of the child sexual abuse is due to alcohol and porn, and I seriously doubt that removing it will stop the abuse. It's a dumb move, instigating a solution without properly defining the problem and only recognizing the symptoms is a huge problem.

If I were the government I would up security, create havens for children being abused, and encourage missionaries to enter the region.

[Japher]

Aren't all problems created by White people?

Bah! We're the only ones who do anything

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Japher
I think it's stupid to believe that the cause of the child sexual abuse is due to alcohol and porn, and I seriously doubt that removing it will stop the abuse. It's a dumb move, instigating a solution without properly defining the problem and only recognizing the symptoms is a huge problem.

If I were the government I would up security, create havens for children being abused, and encourage missionaries to enter the region.

Agreed.

And what does Aborigine culture have to say about child sex? What was going on before evil white people arrived?

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Am I the only one amused by Ozzy's impassioned defense of child sex abuse?

.001/10

[DinoDoc]

What's to be gained from infantalizing the kids, Ozzy?

[Caligastia]

I'd like to hear your opinion on the matter, Ozzy.

[OzzyKP]

I believe it is absolutely racist to ban an ethnic group from drinking alcohol or watching porn. Just as it is ageist to ban teens from doing the same.

I also am highly skeptical it will do anything to stop the sex abuse. I agree with Cali and others that there are far more sensible ways of stopping this problem.

This law is exactly the same as the laws passed against youth that are feel good distractions from solving the root problems. And in light of the racist comments here about Aborigines lacking reason, it seems this uses the same justification as well.

This is a clear example of how intertwined and related racism and ageism are.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
I believe it is absolutely racist to ban an ethnic group from drinking alcohol or watching porn. Just as it is ageist to ban teens from doing the same.

I also am highly skeptical it will do anything to stop the sex abuse. I agree with Cali and others that there are far more sensible ways of stopping this problem.

This law is exactly the same as the laws passed against youth that are feel good distractions from solving the root problems. And in light of the racist comments here about Aborigines lacking reason, it seems this uses the same justification as well.

This is a clear example of how intertwined and related racism and ageism are.

I know some people here may have already asked you this in a sarcastic manner, but I would sincerely like to know your opinion on the age of consent. When do you believe that a child is old enough to consent to sex?

[Japher]

IMO, I think anyone that has completed HS and has demonstrated that they are relatively independent should be granted "adult" status. Concurently, anyone who cannot demonstrated that they are independent, regardless of age, should be granted "child" status...

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Caligastia


I know some people here may have already asked you this in a sarcastic manner, but I would sincerely like to know your opinion on the age of consent. When do you believe that a child is old enough to consent to sex?

Why don't you ask God, isn't the average age of puberty in girls about 12?

[Caligastia]

Physical readiness does not equal mental readiness.

[Nugog]

Originally posted by Japher
is due to alcohol and porn

From what I saw, alcohol is a huge problem.

It is hard to describe, without being labeled "racist", but there does seem to be a propensity towards alcoholism in the Aboriginal people.

From memory, none of the Aboriginal's who worked in the organisation I was involved in (a private one, not a government one) drank at all. I can remember a few conversations regarding it, and the general opinion, from the team members who were Aboriginal, was that alcohol was one of the biggest problems their people faced. This was their opinion - not mine.

But their opinion probably does not count, as they were trying to make something of their lives..........

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Japher
IMO, I think anyone that has completed HS and has demonstrated that they are relatively independent should be granted "adult" status. Concurently, anyone who cannot demonstrated that they are independent, regardless of age, should be granted "child" status...

Yup.