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Originally posted by Barnabas
By the way, if I recall correctly the greek period and hellenistic period centered in Alexandria were far "richer" in scientific advances han the "roman" period
Alexandria was founded by Alexander, who a few years later, died. With him, the "Helenistic period" died out; his empire was carved into three parts; and his general Ptolomy got the Egyptian part with Alexander.
So, I don't see how you can have a "hellenistic period centered in Alexandria"
Dark age is what happened to the greeks or the indus valley civilization after the invasions/migrations they suffered, lots of knowledge was lost andthe art of writing was lost for centuries.
The church actually had a positive role preserving knowledge and expanding it to the barbarians
Alexandria was founded by Alexander, who a few years later, died. With him, the "Helenistic period" died out; his empire was carved into three parts; and his general Ptolomy got the Egyptian part with Alexander.
So, I don't see how you can have a "hellenistic period centered in Alexandria"
I meant the kingdoms ruled by Alexander´s generals and their dinasties in egypt, asia and greece
The end of the Hellenistic period is generally seen as 31 BC, when the kingdom of Ptolemaic Egypt was utterly defeated by the Romans at the Battle of Actium. Octavian (Augustus) defeated Marc Antony at Actium, as a result, Egypt's last ruler, Cleopatra, (circa 30 BC) committed suicide and her kingdom was annexed by Octavian.
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Alexandria was founded by Alexander, who a few years later, died. With him, the "Helenistic period" died out; his empire was carved into three parts; and his general Ptolomy got the Egyptian part with Alexander.
So, I don't see how you can have a "hellenistic period centered in Alexandria"
This is ass-backwards: the Hellenistic period begins with Alexander's death and lasts till the Roman annexation of the last successor kingdom, namely Ptolemaic Egypt with Alexandria.
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Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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Dark Ages were certainly a period of stagnation in Europe but not a thousand years worth, probably a few hundred at most.
Its speculated that if the Pre-Socratic philosophers (really the first true Scientists) like Anaxagoras had flourished the Renaissance could have happened more then two thousand years ago. Its all about the social institutions and norms that either encourage or stifle scientific advancement and those circumstances have always been hard to maintain.
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I think, regarding muslim contributions to science, more important than preserving greek knowledge, was their expansion to the west and east (from spain and morocco to central asia, india and the malay islands), because it made technological exchange between east and west much faster than ever before
Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
Dark Ages were certainly a period of stagnation in Europe but not a thousand years worth, probably a few hundred at most.
The Dark Age is often incorrectly used inerchagebly with the Middle Age. They were really differeent periods. The line between the 2 is ussually said to be 1000 AD or 1066 AD (the Dark Ages being first of course). Europe almopst recovered from the The Fall of Rome, but then the Vikings came extending the Dark Age.
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