Girls terrorised for going for higher education; it's "Un-Islamic"

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Islam is barbarism and always has been...

In its early days, it was quiet enlightened. It was the most innovative, education group of people on Earth. They invented algebra and the numberic system we still use today -- including the zero.

The "House of Wisdom" library in Baghdad was open to all: Muslim, Jew or Christian. Some experts content that the Renaissance began -- not in Italy -- but it Bagdad, for that city saveguarded the knowledge of the Greeks and Romans during our Dark Ages.

There were more books in the library in Muslim Toledo than in all Christendom.

The dark irony now is that many Muslims believe that, to return to greatness, they must turn away from education and tolerance, rather than embrace it the way Muslims did during their golden age.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Elok
What are these girls studying in grad school? If it's "gender studies," I approve of the terrorism.

One of them was stopped while going to her physics paper.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Zkribbler

In its early days, it was quiet enlightened. It was the most innovative, education group of people on Earth. They invented algebra and the numberic system we still use today -- including the zero.

Definitely not the zero, and the algebra bit is debatable.

[snoopy369]

Oerdin, I could read you passages of the bible that are quite violent, and St. Paul's letters were used for centuries to oppress women and other non-christian groups.

The problem is not Islam, but the use of religion in the oppression of others. Any religion founded over a millennium ago will have its violent aspects when compared to the modern day (or other aspects incompatible with modern society). Even Buddhists did some pretty violent things once upon a time...

[SlowwHand]

You're right, snoopster.

I have a proposition. America, Britain and whoever else that has a hair on their ass, this is going to shock you, open a program to expedite entry of what I would term political refugees. Make it available to Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, wherever.
After a given time, bomb hell out of whoever stayed, give it back to those that couldn't put up with the crap anymore.
Problem solved.

[snoopy369]

You have a bit too much to drink tonight Sloww?

Even if it were a good idea to allow millions of refugees in from these nations, for the time it would take to do your bombing program, do you exactly think Iran would permit their citizens leave the country en masse?

[SlowwHand]

Well, sure. They've already shown themselves to be a tolerant people.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Islam is barbarism and always has been. It is violent, it is cruel, and it is backwards. It can be no other way since its founder was a genicidial maniac, a pedophile, and a drug addict. The people who think Islam can be reformed believe so despite what the Koran says because the Koran is filled with vile garbage and continually orders Muslims to kill the unbelievers where ever they find them. Individual Muslims can ignore these basic tenets of their religion but that doesn't make Islam better. It is still a religion of hate and murder.

Woh! Oerdin, while I realise this is an emotive issue, don't you think this goes way to far? Discussions of religion are of course permitted, but labelling Mohammed as a peadophile is a little further than religious discussion. Cool the language a little. You can make valid points about Islam, it's effect on the world and any inherent violence without such potentially offensive language.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Drogue

Woh! Oerdin, while I realise this is an emotive issue, don't you think this goes way to far? Discussions of religion are of course permitted, but labelling Mohammed as a peadophile is a little further than religious discussion. Cool the language a little. You can make valid points about Islam, it's effect on the world and any inherent violence without such potentially offensive language.

Actually, he's not saying it as a curse, or exaggeration, or something like that, because even the most orthodox Muslims themselves acknowledge that Mohammed had intercourse with a nine year old girl (whom he had married when she was six).

And she was his most favourite wife (among the confirmed twelve he had in his harem).

[MJW]

Matthias's Great Big List of Things People Say That Cause Flamewars

(In no order)

1. Hitler
2. Abortion
3. "labelling Mohammed as a peadophile"
4. *snip snip*
5. Terrorism
6. Religon
7. Taxes and misc. goverment serves (tipper gore)
8. Death Pently
9. Things on Sex (gay)
10. X-To many left to list.

There I said them all now you have to ban me!

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by aneeshm


Actually, he's not saying it as a curse, or exaggeration, or something like that, because even the most orthodox Muslims themselves acknowledge that Mohammed had intercourse with a nine year old girl (whom he had married when she was six).

And she was his most favourite wife (among the confirmed twelve he had in his harem).

I think a 9 year old is getting old. Remember that women enter puberty faster than men do. So a 9 year old boy who still wets the bed is clearly off limits. But, unless they were stuffing their bras, I knew a lot of 10 year old girls who were busty and were advertising themselves as "of age" in various ways. I would also like to point out that medicine was not advanced back in Mohammed's day, so every minute you could procreate, you should hop to. Perhaps you should analyze context, what is inappropriate now might be necessary.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Even Buddhists did some pretty violent things once upon a time...

They still do.

[MJW]

Nice threadjack



/cross posted with the guy ahead of me

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Wiglaf

Perhaps you should analyze context, what is inappropriate now might be necessary.

Fifty year olds fu(king nine year olds is never appropriate.

Specially because Mohammed's example is supposed to be an ideal for all Muslims to follow, for all time.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Wiglaf


I think a 9 year old is getting old. Remember that women enter puberty faster than men do. So a 9 year old boy who still wets the bed is clearly off limits. But, unless they were stuffing their bras, I knew a lot of 10 year old girls who were busty and were advertising themselves as "of age" in various ways. I would also like to point out that medicine was not advanced back in Mohammed's day, so every minute you could procreate, you should hop to. Perhaps you should analyze context, what is inappropriate now might be necessary.

Oh, and now I know that you're a total sicko, because you're willing to do nine year olds.