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  • Putin warns on U.S. missiles in Europe

    I just thought I was a paranoid. This guy here, he's a paranoid.

    By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer
    1 hour, 16 minutes ago

    ROME - Russian President
    Vladimir Putin warned that U.S. plans to build a missile defense system in Eastern Europe would force Moscow to target its weapons against Europe.

    The threat, in an interview published Sunday in Italy's Corriere della Sera and other foreign media, marked one of Putin's most strident statements to date against the U.S. plans and came just days before he is to join
    President Bush and other leaders at a Group of Eight summit in Germany.

    In the interview, Putin was asked whether the proposed missile defense shield would compel Moscow to direct its own missiles at locations and U.S. military sites in Europe, as during the Cold War.

    "If the American nuclear potential grows in European territory, we have to give ourselves new targets in Europe," Putin said, according to Corriere. "It is up to our military to define these targets, in addition to defining the choice between ballistic and cruise missiles."

    Russia has not overtly targeted Europe since agreeing after the fall of the Soviet Union not to direct missiles against specific countries, according to Pavel Felgenhauer, an independent military analyst based in Moscow. He added however, that that was simple technical matter, since a missile can be given a target within minutes.

    Previously, some Russian military officials have said Moscow could aim Russian weapons at Europe-based missile systems.

    Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek accused Russia on Sunday of misleading the public about the planned missile defense bases in the Czech Republic and Poland to hide Russia's internal problems.

    "Russia needs an outside enemy to hide problems at home," Topolanek said.

    The United States made a formal request in January to place a radar base in a military area southwest of Prague, Czech Republic, and 10 interceptor missiles in neighboring Poland as part of plans for a missile defense shield that Washington says would protect against a potential threat from
    Iran.

    The U.S. plans have brought a strong reaction from Russia, which accuses the United States of threatening Russian territory and of trying to start a new arms race.

    Putin was interviewed Friday at his dacha by journalists from each of the G-8 countries, Corriere said.

    The three-day summit, Wednesday to Friday at the Baltic Sea resort of Heiligendamm, will bring together leaders of the United States, Britain, Canada, Germany, France, Italy, Russia, and Japan.

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    Associated Press writer Maria Danilova contributed to this report from Moscow.
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  • #2
    I denounce him.
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    Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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    • #3
      Tacky has turned against Teh Putin? Say it ain't so...
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      • #4
        "Washington says would protect against a potential threat from Iran."

        What a BS! I perfectly understand the politicians must pretend it is deployed against Iran. But here at Poly we hold frank discussions, we don't need to pretend. So why can't you guys just acknowledge the simple fact that it is directed primarily against Russia?
        Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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        • #5
          Why do you assume it is not directed at Middle Eastern countries with missiles and nuclear programmes?
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          • #6
            There are no such countries yet and there won't be in a foreseable future.

            Even if it were directed against such countries, it is directled against Russia too (and in the first place against Russia).
            Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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            • #7
              How is that?

              Do you think the US shield would have the slightest effect in a nuclear conflict between Russia and The US/NATO?

              How could it be directed at Russia if it is not designed for a conflict that involves Russia?
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              • #8
                Incidently, there certainly are ME countries with missiles and nuclear programmes.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by notyoueither
                  Do you think the US shield would have the slightest effect in a nuclear conflict between Russia and The US/NATO?
                  Not for the moment, of course. But once deployed, it will be perfectioned in the future.
                  Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by notyoueither
                    Incidently, there certainly are ME countries with missiles and nuclear programmes.
                    Those missiles can't reach Europe. Their nuclear programs still have a long way to go.
                    Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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                    • #11
                      Incidentally, if this missile shield were truly directed against the South, it would be better deployed more to the south. The present location is perfectly positioned precisely against the Russian attack.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Vagabond


                        Not for the moment, of course. But once deployed, it will be perfectioned in the future.
                        And Russian missile technology and tactics will also be advanced.

                        What I don't understand is why the big deal is being made of this.

                        In a conflict that involves any need for defensive systems to protect against Russian missiles, life as we know it on this planet is over even if the American system could somehow be made 50% effective vs Russian weapons. That's a very large if, and an unbelievably high effective rate and the world is still screwed.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Vagabond


                          Those missiles can't reach Europe. Their nuclear programs still have a long way to go.
                          Not the ones we know about, and once they have nukes is too late to begin preparing.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by The Vagabond
                            Incidentally, if this missile shield were truly directed against the South, it would be better deployed more to the south. The present location is perfectly positioned precisely against the Russian attack.
                            Only if drawing a line between capitals.

                            Missile systems don't all work along those lines.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by notyoueither

                              And Russian missile technology and tactics will also be advanced.
                              Hopefully so. But this doesn't abrogate the simple fact that the present deployment is a legitimate point of concern for Russia.

                              What I don't understand is why the big deal is being made of this.

                              In a conflict that involves any need for defensive systems to protect against Russian missiles, life as we know it on this planet is over even if the American system could somehow be made 50% effective vs Russian weapons. That's a very large if, and an unbelievably high effective rate and the world is still screwed.
                              Technology will advance. Furthermore, it's not this first step that is so frightening, but the fact it's just the first step (once it's started, there will be more).
                              Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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