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  • More on-topic, I don't think the classical Egyptians had a concept of "race" as we know it today. Today's "race" is mostly a post-medieval European construct, formed by the need of Europeans to show themselves as unique (a natural impulse in most people or groups, but magnified and amplified to unhealthy levels by long-drawn out civilisation conflict Europe and Christianity faced with Islam and the East, and the subsequent lead they managed to acquire over the rest of the world, culminating in the colonial era).

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    • Originally posted by Arrian

      As for the middle road, perhaps that's true of me. I do tend toward moderate positions. However, everything I've seen about ancient Egypt, including the slightly crazy link you provided, indicates that it was a mixture of semetic from the ME and african from the south (Kush/Nubia). In other words, I'm not ideological about this. I'm just going on what seems reasonable based on the evidence I've seen and read about.

      -Arrian
      We can't simply reduce it to that, either.

      More likely, Egypt was itself unique, a distinct civilisation, which was, to a certain extent, influenced by forces acting on it from the Semitic north and the African south, but was much more than just the sum of those (rather minor, considering Egypt's own power) influences.

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      • Does slavery (as practised in the New World) fall under white history or black history?
        Niether exists.
        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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        • Originally posted by Patroklos


          Niether exists.
          Right sure. You might as well say that black people don't even exist.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • Originally posted by Oerdin


            Whites make up 77% of the population in California.
            That's because latinos or "hispanics" as you call them are lumped as whites in US census statistics. From your own link:
            White persons, percent, 2005 (a) 77.0% 80.2%
            Black persons, percent, 2005 (a) 6.7% 12.8%
            American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2005 (a) 1.2% 1.0%
            Asian persons, percent, 2005 (a) 12.2% 4.3%
            Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent, 2005 (a) 0.4% 0.2%
            Persons reporting two or more races, percent, 2005 2.4% 1.5%
            Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2005 (b) 35.2% 14.4%
            White persons not Hispanic, percent, 2005 43.8% 66.9%

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            • Right sure. You might as well say that black people don't even exist.
              Don't project on me.
              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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              • Mixed race people may be considered black in the USA by whites from that country, but that is different in other parts of the world, in Brazil if you call black someone who is half black half white (like Halle Berry or Lenny Kravitz), they may feel offended.

                In spanish America you had mulatos (half white half black), quadroons (1/4 black 1/3 white), and octoroons, and many other names for mixtures between blacks and indians.
                I need a foot massage

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                • Originally posted by Patroklos


                  Don't project on me.
                  I don't understand you again, but there is a ethnic group called blacks and they do have a history.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • Originally posted by Kidicious
                    I don't understand you again, but there is a ethnic group called blacks and they do have a history.
                    In the US it would be properly called American history.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • Kidicious doesn't exist. At least, I like to think so.

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                      • Originally posted by aneeshm


                        We can't simply reduce it to that, either.

                        More likely, Egypt was itself unique, a distinct civilisation, which was, to a certain extent, influenced by forces acting on it from the Semitic north and the African south, but was much more than just the sum of those (rather minor, considering Egypt's own power) influences.
                        Sure. I was addressing the attempt to "claim" Egypt as either black or white, which is pretty absurd any way you slice it. Ancient Egypt was... Egyptian.

                        The outside influences weren't all that minor. Egypt was conquered, in whole or in part, several times, from both North and South (and West, IIRC).

                        -Arrian
                        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                        • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          In the US it would be properly called American history.
                          Funny how that works...

                          -Arrian
                          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                          • Originally posted by Arrian


                            I would think it depends on how dark their skin is.
                            Nope. Once again, kiddy is correct. Google on "one drop of blood"

                            Of course once someone was light enough to "pass" that was a different situation.
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              In the US it would be properly called American history.
                              You have to have womens history, black history etc.. otherwise American history = WASP history.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                              • Is Kidicious in favour of eypt being taight as black history or against that, I am confused.

                                And isnt black history like saying caucasian history?

                                I could understand african-american history being a term used in the usa, but black history does not make sense.
                                But african-american history has nothing to do with egypt, slaves were taken from west africa, angola, congo, not from egypt, which has been an arab country for a long long time.
                                I need a foot massage

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